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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2015 2:07:10 GMT
Somebody is getting ambitious! I like it. I said it before and I'll say it again: I don't think anyone should be excluded from receiving a crafting parcel. Period. Would it be great if a person that received a gift, could send one in return? Yes. Is a person obligated to do so? Absolutely not. I understand that feels weird. But there is no time limit on this kind of thing. Maybe you cant send something now, but maybe you could in six months. No big deal. I think everyone should have the opportunity to get some neat things. Especially if they don't have much. I want to send stuff to share ideas and inspiration. Plus it makes me feel good. And then there is that whole world peace thing.  Im sorry I was cavalier with your name, Alexis. I knew tauster was looking for folks in Europe to keep shipping cost down. ...and crafting materials aren't the only thing to send... I might put together some sets that any game could use... maybe doors and tables.... or traps.... or trees...or shelves with books....I also have some old army builder molds, orcs and skeletons. I could cast up some minis to send as well... My thoughts as well. To that point, without giving away the surprise, i didnt include craft materials. I sent what i had around that can be used for crafts. |
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Post by Alexis on Feb 27, 2015 4:56:11 GMT
You're all just so nice! curufin I really didn't want to come across rude or something. If it really is okay with everyone that it might take me quite some time to put together a parcel you can put my name on the list. I just have to deal with feeling a bit weird for a moment ;-) I possibly could even give out a shipping adress in Germany, because depending from where someone sends something it might be cheaper than Switzerland. |
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Post by daveyjones on Feb 27, 2015 5:01:07 GMT
Somebody is getting ambitious! I like it. I said it before and I'll say it again: I don't think anyone should be excluded from receiving a crafting parcel. Period. Would it be great if a person that received a gift, could send one in return? Yes. Is a person obligated to do so? Absolutely not. I understand that feels weird. But there is no time limit on this kind of thing. Maybe you cant send something now, but maybe you could in six months. No big deal. I think everyone should have the opportunity to get some neat things. Especially if they don't have much. I want to send stuff to share ideas and inspiration. Plus it makes me feel good. And then there is that whole world peace thing. Im sorry I was cavalier with your name, Alexis. I knew tauster was looking for folks in Europe to keep shipping cost down. ...and crafting materials aren't the only thing to send... I might put together some sets that any game could use... maybe doors and tables.... or traps.... or trees...or shelves with books....I also have some old army builder molds, orcs and skeletons. I could cast up some minis to send as well... you can never have enough orcs, but especially skeletons would be cool because you can take them apart and use the bones and skulls in crafting projects as well. i just bought some GW stuff for that purpose myself. |
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Post by dmzane on Feb 27, 2015 6:08:19 GMT
I've been thinking on this a great deal since I first saw this post (I work night shifts,alone). This is truly a thing that could really grow but...it must be nurtured and it must have someone to keep the wheels turning. I once traded miniatures with people all over the world and the cost for shipping was always the worst bit, so keeping trades on different sides of the pond can help but I'd be willing to send to who ever. Also the 'gifting' or even trading talents is exciting to me...I'd love to trade/gift miniatures/materials for a painted mini or terrain piece...man I'm just excited over the whole idea.
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Post by dmzane on Feb 27, 2015 6:10:10 GMT
On a side note...I'm not volunteering to run something like that lol. Read my post again and it sounds like that but I work crazy hours and could not.
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Post by daveyjones on Feb 27, 2015 6:17:35 GMT
i think with a cleverly designed set of rules we might be able to start something that governs itself.
i posted some examples earlier of this kind of trading i have seen on other forums, and they
functioned like memes; somebody started them, and as long as there are people willing to participate
it continues more or less on it's own.
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Post by dragon722 on Feb 27, 2015 16:10:35 GMT
As a general thought: Even while the idea behind this whole thing is to exponentially grow the parcel-sending, maybe people shouldn't feel oblidged to send out three packages for every one they receive. For some the shipping costs are prohibitively high, others feel like they don't have interesting materials to contribute (although this is probably wrong in most cases - people just don't know where to look, and one of our goals should be to train us all in that direction). To keep the Insider Trading going, one for one is enough: it wouldn't grow, but it would at least go on - and that is better than the whole thing dying only because everybody is afraid to be put on the list of receivers. Just a crazy idea that popped up while typing this: Why don't we as a community send a parcel to each new user? If we would make this something of a tradition around here, people would more likely get involded - not only in parcel-trading but also becoming much more active posters. Imagine how you would have felt if you had received a package full of awesome materials a few days or weeks after you made your first posting! I'm not afraid to be on the list. I just thought it wouldn't be really fair if I received something while I wasn't able to send out something nice to someone else yet. I would feel kind of guilty. I might just be a bit weird about that ;-) I really like the idea of sending something to new members (of course not because I am rather new here) it seemes like a nice thing to get started. Still I also would feel kind of weird just randomly receiving a gift without giving something back. I'm just wondering who would be responsible for sending out stuff to new members? Seeing all the ideas and outcomes of everyones creations is inspiring and that in away is a "PACKAGED Gift" of its own. I cannot wait to see what this THREAD has in store for us of all our collective bounties and creations galore  |
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Post by tauster on Feb 27, 2015 18:51:32 GMT
I'm not afraid to be on the list. I just thought it wouldn't be really fair if I received something while I wasn't able to send out something nice to someone else yet. I would feel kind of guilty. I might just be a bit weird about that ;-) I really like the idea of sending something to new members (of course not because I am rather new here) it seemes like a nice thing to get started. Still I also would feel kind of weird just randomly receiving a gift without giving something back. I'm just wondering who would be responsible for sending out stuff to new members? Feeling guilty isn't a sign of being weird, Alexis. It would happen to me exactly the same way. The reason is that we all are living in a culture where absolutley everything must have a price attached, either openly or hidden. The meme ' There is no free lunch' is so deeply ingrained in all of us that we have a hard time coping with anything runs counter to that. It feels like something is braking a law of nature, and we simply aren't programmed to deal with such situations. The irony is that this absolutely no such thing as a law of nature, it is just a quirky notion of our culure. People in other cultures* have way less problems with receiving gifts that have no expectation of a 'counter-gift' attached. * By 'culture' I don't mean 'eastern culture vs. western culture' or something like that, as I don't see any difference between the fundamental of the two. I'm thinking along the lines of 'civilization vs. tribal ways of living'. Google for Daniel Quinn (or simply go to his homepage) if you're interested in that topic, but be careful: I found that topic so interesting that I spent a good deal of time reading and thinking (time that's well-invested but you won't be able to spent crafting ). This guy reprogrammed my worldview about ten years ago with Ishmael, and if of all the 12 sqm of bookshelfes I could keep only a dozen books, more than half of that would be his works. ...oops, seems like I'm getting philosiphical again. If Insider Trading (Hey, I really like that name!) can change that, I'd be more than happy! About what could be traded shared, here's some more examples - spare miniatures: I have hundreds of minis, literally. Some I bought cheaply in bulk, others have seen their use and won't probably be used on my gaming table for years. I put a few in each package, hoping that others find more use for them than me - cheap LEDs: especially around xmas, but around the year you can find cheap battery-driven LED chains in the home improvement parts of stores like dollarstore or micheals (or whatever those cheapo-shops are called). - some stuff you crafted yourself: I normally do not only craft one or two of something, but a dozen. for practice and because making twice as much does usually take only a little bit longer (economies of scale). so I usually have some stuff left over to share, which gives people - especially newbies - something to inspire |
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Post by leeinwashington on Feb 27, 2015 19:08:34 GMT
So I received a package full of cool bits that seem to be cast in plastic (resin?). I'm pretty sure I know who it came from, but the real name is on the return label, not the forum username. Perhaps we should make sure to include our username on or in packages to avoid confusion? Also, if any of you would want to talk about the craft outside of the forum. I'm on facebook Lee Eddings, my profile pic is a wolf head silhouette  |
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Post by Alexis on Feb 27, 2015 19:15:15 GMT
Thank you for the nice words tauster. I totally agree. You are absolutely right with what you say. Personally I really like giving gifts and never expect something in return. I'm happy if I can make someone else happy. And still I think other people expect me to give something in return if I receive a gift. It's really just how we are raised. Everything has a prize ;-) We just forget that something like a smile can be enough in some cases. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2015 19:36:14 GMT
If its from Ryan its curufin.
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Post by curufin on Feb 27, 2015 20:20:55 GMT
So I received a package full of cool bits that seem to be cast in plastic (resin?). I'm pretty sure I know who it came from, but the real name is on the return label, not the forum username. Perhaps we should make sure to include our username on or in packages to avoid confusion? Also, if any of you would want to talk about the craft outside of the forum. I'm on facebook Lee Eddings, my profile pic is a wolf head silhouette My guess would be, it was from @shinobi. He rolled your name (way back in page 2 of this thread). |
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Post by leeinwashington on Feb 27, 2015 20:33:34 GMT
That was what I figured, lol.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2015 22:29:44 GMT
Yay! My package must have found its way! Yes, they are all cast in resin. I found making molds and casting my own pieces very relaxing, since I could make so many copies for less than buying them new. I had to practice, a lot, so that left me with a few spares!
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Post by leeinwashington on Feb 28, 2015 2:39:13 GMT
Yay! My package must have found its way! Yes, they are all cast in resin. I found making molds and casting my own pieces very relaxing, since I could make so many copies for less than buying them new. I had to practice, a lot, so that left me with a few spares! What did the big hand come from? Would like to see the rest of that beast, lol |
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Post by valas on Feb 28, 2015 3:43:53 GMT
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Post by curufin on Feb 28, 2015 4:04:41 GMT
Also the 'gifting' or even trading talents is exciting to me...I'd love to trade/gift miniatures/materials for a painted mini or terrain piece...man I'm just excited over the whole idea. YES!!!! You're all just so nice! curufin I really didn't want to come across rude or something. If it really is okay with everyone that it might take me quite some time to put together a parcel you can put my name on the list. I just have to deal with feeling a bit weird for a moment ;-) I possibly could even give out a shipping adress in Germany, because depending from where someone sends something it might be cheaper than Switzerland. I didn't think that at all. It was my fault. Let me know when you are ready, and I'll add your name. you can never have enough orcs, but especially skeletons would be cool because you can take them apart and use the bones and skulls in crafting projects as well. i just bought some GW stuff for that purpose myself. Unfortunately, the skeletons are armored and carrying weapons. You cant really take them apart  ...or I would have done that years ago... Seeing all the ideas and outcomes of everyone's creations is inspiring and that in a way is a "PACKAGED Gift" of its own. I cannot wait to see what this THREAD has in store for us of all our collective bounties and creations galore I couldn't agree more. noctuary has used a couple pieces I sent him in his Wasteland builds. I have to say, it is a real thrill to see how the things will be used. That, in it of itself, is a gift. About what could be traded shared, here's some more examples - spare miniatures: I have hundreds of minis, literally. Some I bought cheaply in bulk, others have seen their use and won't probably be used on my gaming table for years. I put a few in each package, hoping that others find more use for them than me - cheap LEDs: especially around xmas, but around the year you can find cheap battery-driven LED chains in the home improvement parts of stores like dollarstore or micheals (or whatever those cheapo-shops are called). - some stuff you crafted yourself: I normally do not only craft one or two of something, but a dozen. for practice and because making twice as much does usually take only a little bit longer (economies of scale). so I usually have some stuff left over to share, which gives people - especially newbies - something to inspire I have been thinking about this too. I would like to add some things that I think are as good as craft materials but could cost far less to ship. But first I want to talk about the sheer volume talent that this community has. The resources available are quite staggering when you actually think about it. I would like to paint a few scenarios (being very cavalier). There is at least one member here that is a writer. A WRITER! Maybe your players just saved the day and the town mayor is going to give a speech on their behalf. You decide that the mayor will have some sinister nature that you want to hint at during the speech but don't want it to be blatantly obvious. Just write up the gist of it and send it off to a writer who can "craft" the proper wording. BAM, super sinister mayor with an elegant speech that is sure to captivate your player. I would trade crafting materials for a custom retooling of a speech I need. Also, easily done though email...free! We have sculptors. Need I say more? Okay, maybe trade something for a custom sculpt....or maybe trade for a sculpting tutorial video. I cant sculpt to save my life. But I wish I could. If I could sculpt even some basic humanoids, I could do some serious damage. I would gladly trade stuff for a basic step-by-step sculpting tutorial. "This is how you unwrap your Sculpey package..." Map makers? I think so. Need an old looking map? Look no farther. Members that can draw. Yes, we have dozens. Need a custom picture? Maybe a local or NPC. Once again, with an email attachment...it's free! I think you get what I am saying... you don't have to dig deep to find all the special talents that members here posses. Custom Photoshopped character sheets? No Problem. Weird plant pods? Sure thing. Wood grain carved craft sticks? How many do you need? ....We have one of the best collection of talents out there... we just need a little nudge to elevate all of our games to the next level.... and beyond. |
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Post by daveyjones on Feb 28, 2015 4:20:45 GMT
maybe there should be a thread where people post only the skills they want to offer and what they would trade their
time for.
or something like that.
indeed there is plenty of skill and talent here, and from the looks of it more then enough
people who would be willing to participate. all we need is some way of organising things.
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Post by daveyjones on Feb 28, 2015 4:27:56 GMT
you can never have enough orcs, but especially skeletons would be cool because you can take them apart and use the bones and skulls in crafting projects as well. i just bought some GW stuff for that purpose myself. Unfortunately, the skeletons are armored and carrying weapons. You cant really take them apart ...or I would have done that years ago... well i ordered a set of skeletons from GW, it was 8 euros for 5 skeletons. and also a pack of 32 skulls + 1 pile of skulls for 10.50. i will post a bunch of pics so people can judge their craftworthyness. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 5:10:15 GMT
Don't forget to make a mold of the skulls so you can make more of them whenever you need them. mold |
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...or I would have done that years ago... 
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