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Post by daveyjones on May 16, 2015 14:58:12 GMT
after reaching the limits of regular clay and someone recommending green stuff to me for the more delicate things i went to my local games workshop and picked up some green stuff.
that stuff may be green, but it sure as hell isn't cheap. 9.30 euros for 20 grams :S
so i looked around and found some other things like green stuff from GF9 and TAP and other things like beesputty and miliput.
so i am wondering:
-what is the difference between these things -is green stuff the same from different brands or is there quality difference? -what do you recommend for sculpting things to delicate for regular clay? (needs to be workable after curing with filing and sanding etc. and of course cheaper then green stuff)
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2015 15:00:17 GMT
Well I know Rouseau uses milliput all the time. His mini Krox for the mini war was made entirely of it and he dremeled in the details. I know he uses it for patch work and smoothing on projects like the vending machine.
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Post by belatucadras on May 16, 2015 15:41:40 GMT
People don't generally think of Sculpey or Super Sculpey during discussions of GreenStuff, but I have found it to be quite effective.
The pre-hardened work time is nigh limitless and post-hardening it can be dremmeled, sanded and carved with knives.
Baking it can become problematic if you are adding to an existing structure or building on previously baked items. Boiling it can solve some of these issues and is the method of choice if you are using colored Sculpey as baking can discolor it while boiling doesn't seem to.
If you don't want the item you are working on to get wet or become exposed to high heat, this is not what you are looking for. If wet or heat are not much of a problem, I would give it a try.
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Post by indigo777 on May 17, 2015 1:04:50 GMT
I believe Greenstuff dries slightly flexible so its less prone to breaking and it holds finer details. I use milliput quite a lot. Its similar to sculpey after you mix the two parts of putty together. You have about 4 hours of work time with it and it bonds with metal, plastic, or wood. Within 24 hours its hard as a rock and super strong but not flexible.
Milliput can be bought quite cheaply at Michael's and Hobby Lobby, its usually 7.99 a box and you can use the 40% off coupons on it.
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Post by daveyjones on May 17, 2015 1:12:01 GMT
could you file or sand milliput after it dries?
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Post by indigo777 on May 17, 2015 1:19:20 GMT
Yes you can sand and file milliput after it dries.
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Post by daveyjones on May 17, 2015 1:51:00 GMT
cool, thanks everybody i have access to milliput locally so i think i will try that first.
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Post by kitchenwolf on May 17, 2015 2:57:34 GMT
Milliput comes in different grades - you may want to do some research into what kind the sculptors use. I use Magic Sculpt (for stuff that can't be baked) or Fimo (for stuff that can). Never even thought about boiling polyclay - seems you'd need a double boiler to keep from overheating the bottom, or stand there for 20 minutes with a pair of tongs. Neither is insurmountable, just hadn't occurred to me.
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Post by DnDPaladin on May 17, 2015 3:24:01 GMT
this is a great talk as i dont have any sculpey nor do i have any greenstuff around. so im definitely trying to find something good. but if possible i'd like something that air dries i dont like having to bake stuff. though i do have a small bread oven.
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Post by belatucadras on May 17, 2015 4:44:37 GMT
kitchenwolfI don't use a double boiler nor have I had any issues with scorching from contact with the bottom of the pan. Also depending on the size of the piece you are hardening boiling time can be just a few minutes.
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Post by curufin on May 17, 2015 10:36:44 GMT
I've been playing around with green stuff for a little bit now and it definitely has it uses, but it can be a royal pain to work with. For me, it tends to stick to everything I don't want it to sick to, but not the things I want it to stick to.
I just ordered some ProCreate. It's another 2-part epoxy putty, similar to green stuff, but less sticky. I see more and more sculpts by professional sculptors being done in ProCreate. I'll report how it how I like it, once I get a chance to try it out.
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Post by Sleepy Hollow Mike on May 18, 2015 5:38:57 GMT
I agree that green stuff can be sticky I usually make a wet mess because of the water I use to not make it stick to my hands gets everywhere. I have also use this two part stuff that is very similiar to green stuff but it comes in white and blue but its the same process mix the two together it turns light grey not as sticky ....I think its for like auto repair auto body repair
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Post by kitchenwolf on May 20, 2015 23:47:00 GMT
Green stuff is plumber's putty. Lubing it with water is an exercise in futility. Use petroleum jelly or mineral oil. You'll see an immediate improvement in your control.
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Post by voduchyld on May 25, 2015 18:44:02 GMT
Terranscapes did a great review on modelling putties
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Post by DnDPaladin on May 25, 2015 22:57:01 GMT
real interesting videos, definitely worth the watch !
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Post by michka on May 26, 2015 12:47:39 GMT
If you are looking to use the green stuff sparingly, you could make the main body of your sculpt out of Super Sculpy of Fimo, and add details with Green Stuff. Super Sculpey and Fimo are loads cheaper then Green Stuff, and easier to control during the bulking up phase.
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