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Post by daveyjones on Apr 8, 2015 11:38:33 GMT
so i couldn't resist and picked up a pot of 'agrellan earth', one of citadel's crakle paints. apparently this does work, though it takes some experimenting to figure out the proper thickness. in my first test i applied thinly on the outside and thick in the middle:
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Post by Alexis on Apr 8, 2015 15:56:51 GMT
so i couldn't resist and picked up a pot of 'agrellan earth', one of citadel's crakle paints. apparently this does work, though it takes some experimenting to figure out the proper thickness. in my first test i applied thinly on the outside and thick in the middle: Looks interesting!
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Post by tauster on Apr 8, 2015 20:34:03 GMT
I did some crackle paint experiment months ago and came up with similar results, but I didn't continue down that path - I have that stuff still on a shelf somewhere, unused ever since...
Some ideas where this stuff could be used: - lava - cracked earth (Ok, that one's obvious) - ice - flaking skin (not sure it works on non-horizontal surfaces, maybe it just flows down from the miniature and pools on the base...
I'd love to see what you come up with!
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Post by daveyjones on Apr 8, 2015 21:30:19 GMT
the stuff i have doesn't really flow. it's so thick it is almost a paste. here's my second attempt: so this stuff does work, and quite well but it is very expensive. i payed 4 euros for the pot and i think with this 2" diameter base now done on both sides i spent about 1/3rd of the contents.
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Post by michka on Apr 9, 2015 4:34:07 GMT
Daveyjones, that looks really good. How well do you think it will survive a game night? You could seal it in white glue, but would that ruin the effect?
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Post by daveyjones on Apr 9, 2015 11:25:18 GMT
a little bit, the glue would leave a shiny finish. but it is pretty hard once dry, i don't think it will be a problem.
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Post by DnDPaladin on Apr 9, 2015 20:07:26 GMT
Up to this point i have used mod podge to seal stuff up. its mostly like white glue except it doesn'T shine at the end. i took the non glossy podge. its cheap and the bottle is worth it. you do lose a bit of detail unless you water it down a bit. but for noe, it worked on my beholders and it worked on my dice tower. so if that could help in sealing things for cheap.
the effect is nice. but it seems the price is awefully big.
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Post by daveyjones on Apr 9, 2015 21:49:01 GMT
yeah, next time i have money i think i will try 'Ziterdes Dead-Earth-Paste'. i think that comes at 3.5oz for 11 euros or so.
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Post by michka on Apr 10, 2015 1:11:10 GMT
Hey DnDPaladin, do you have a problem with Mod Podge not drying all the way? I used it for a water effect in some pools. Even after days of dry time, miniatures would stick to the surface of the pool if I left them there for very long. Now this was the glossy type, so that might be the problem.
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Post by daveyjones on Apr 10, 2015 1:40:05 GMT
i did some tests and this citadel stuff dries up very hard and adheres well to the paint beneath.
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Post by DnDPaladin on Apr 10, 2015 3:15:46 GMT
Mishka, no problem here up to this point. haven't used it for water, which is exactly what i had bought it for. maybe it has with sealing, the problem is that it is sometimes sealing the water inside which prevents the water from drying. so the goal is to really put out a layer, wait a whole 24 hours. then pour another layer. up to this point i had to do a single layer to seal stuff up and it works right. i'm laying the layer pretty thin though.
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Post by sgtslag on Apr 10, 2015 14:37:59 GMT
For around $19 at Wal-Mart, you can pick up a Crock Pot cooker, of a fairly large capacity. It will heat up to 170 F, on the Low setting: this is safe for Hot Glue (will soften, but not melt), and it will fully cure most water-based glues, within 30-minutes of baking time. Try it on a test piece, in your oven, assuming it will have a minimum temperature near 170 F. If you like it, consider buying a Crock Pot.
I use mine for curing glues, and also solvent-based coatings, like Minwax Polyshades urethane-stain (aka, The Dip). I bake my mini's for 30-minutes in the Crock Pot, out in the garage where fumes easily dissipate; afterwards, they are fully cured, and ready for a matte clear coat. If I let the solvent-based, urethane-stain air dry, it takes several days... Only use your Crock Pot for hobby stuff, as the chemicals may seep into the ceramic lining. Better safe, than sorry. Just a suggestion. Cheers!
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