This question sort of spins off of Autolycus' question in this thread
I am looking for an alternative rules system. I have come to believe my players don't really want to play an RPG, they want to play a skirmish wargame with some RPG elements. So I am hunting for an alternative rules set that is less clunky on the battlemap than 3.x/PF but still has enough character design options to create unique and interesting characters. Most important are in-combat speed of play and character options.
I have been looking at the Savage Worlds starter rules but I get the sense that most similarly themed characters will be built very very similar if not identical to each other, despite what the rule book claims. Does anyone have opinions about this?
I'll probably take a look at DnD 4e and DnD Next, but I am not hopeful that either of those systems will be the right fit, judging by the size of the rule books alone.
So I would love to hear other people's experiences, especially if your table has similar needs to mine. I am hoping to solicit some opinions and possibly get a few more rules sets on my radar to review for a good fit for my table.
I've run Savage Worlds before and you'd be surprised how different the characters can be! One very important observation that I've found with SW, it tends to be a more cinematic style game, where PCs tend to be able to handle lots of attacks and shrug them off. But that's one of the main advantages of SW.
One complaint that I have seen with Savage worlds is the difficulty in handling battles with more than a small handful of opponents. The no. Of required actions to resolve one single hit can be quite daunting with more than say 6 or 8 combatants (even then it can be frustrating).
If they're wanting small scale wargaming, then I'd turn your focus to wargame rules. Surprisingly, Warhammer has some light RP elelments (oft ignored but they do exist) in their wargames. You could look at some wargaming systems and look for something flexible enough to implement expanded roleplaying.
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sgtslag: Still unpacking after moving in October... Too much stuff, crafting materials are mostly still in boxes. Weekends are busy with life, so little progress made. Getting the urge to push through, though, soon. I have several projects waiting...
Jun 2, 2020 20:14:39 GMT
erho: Yeah I'm down for a painting contect
Jun 8, 2020 14:28:59 GMT
sgtslag: Started working on making hills, which match my Tee-Time carpet I use for my "grass mat," on my gaming table, for big battles. Got two long chunks of open-cell foam, from a friend. Used my Proxxon Hot Wire Cutter to make terrain hills out of them.
Jul 26, 2020 20:12:40 GMT
sgtslag: Came up with around 80 hills. Covering them with the same carpet, from scraps. They will match the tabletop, perfectly. Contact Cement, is my friend. Will post on it, when I get the pictures uploaded. Some prototypes done, as proof-of-concept...
Jul 26, 2020 20:14:06 GMT
randywest: does anyone know more manufacturers for 1/72 fantasy minis besides Dark Alliance, Caesar and Elhiem?
Sept 14, 2020 14:16:19 GMT
sgtslag: 50 Hills completed, 24 left to cover the sides on. Hoping to finish this project within the week. Then I'll post a build description. For war gaming, but it can cross over to RPG sessions... They match the ground 'cloth', perfectly.
Sept 19, 2020 19:03:09 GMT
sgtslag: Sorry, randywest, the listed makers are the only ones I know.
Sept 19, 2020 19:03:34 GMT
sgtslag: Ran out of Hot Glue, with only five hills left to add a skirt to the sides of. Wal-Mart closes at 8:00 PM, thanks to COVID. GRRRrrr! Another 30 minutes of work, and I would have been done: ~77 hills, modular, perfectly matching my table's ground cloth!
Sept 23, 2020 2:50:39 GMT
sgtslag: Will post a write-up soon, or after next week's vacation. Cheers!
Sept 23, 2020 2:51:57 GMT
sgtslag: Hoping to acquire a Chop Saw within the next two weeks. Then I will cut up MDF into triangles, to form the skeleton of my d20 fantasy world globe... Posting will follow, with how-to guide. Cheers!
May 11, 2021 22:57:40 GMT
erho: I have a confession: I havnt painted a thing in months because I got a new guitar(#8!) but now that May "Megadeth month" is over I have a repaired airbrush and a early 90's Ral Partha Amethyst dragon on the table... pics to come soon!
Jun 11, 2021 17:49:58 GMT
margaret: too bad you can't post your music here =). Hadn't seen that dragon - looks like it came out when all my cash was going to raising kids. Looking forward to seeing your paint choices!
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