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Post by DM Misha on Feb 6, 2014 14:54:24 GMT
I've experimented on 2 of hexagon tiles so far with this method. First tile was a mess lol. But on the second I took my time, cut my foil to shape for what I needed. I can confirm foil & white glue aren't the best. A lot of edges were still kinda loose, even after making sure the white glue got pushed around to all the edges during application. But this is where the limited use of the hot glue comes in, to tie in all the seams! Gonna do a few more tiles then paint in the next few days. Will update!
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Post by DMScotty on Feb 6, 2014 15:04:30 GMT
White glue works best on porous materials as it needs air to dry and to bind to the material.
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Post by skunkape on Feb 6, 2014 17:36:14 GMT
I was thinking of TP, but just using white glue, with little to no water. That should keep the warping down to little or none!
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Post by pedrodevaca on Feb 6, 2014 21:12:03 GMT
If you aren't worried about keeping the cost down as low as humanly possible, you can use a different, more suitable adhesive and still create very cheap tiles. I'd use hot glue, personally.
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Post by tauster on Feb 6, 2014 21:42:17 GMT
I was thinking of TP, but just using white glue, with little to no water. That should keep the warping down to little or none! With my cavern walls, I have used exactly that: TP, dipped in a 50:50 watered down whiteglue, tightly squeezed out (leaving the TP moist but not wet) and then applied to thick cardboard which got a film of whiteglue before. The cardboard didn't warp at all. Some TP had to be re-glued after it was dry, but that was only minimal. I haven't tried DMG's aluminum foil method, but I think it's as simple to use as using TP as described above. The aluminum will result in a texture that has a bit less depth than crumpled TP, but that is simply a matter of what effect you want to achieve.
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Post by thedmg on Feb 6, 2014 21:42:18 GMT
Hot glue is hot and it will be difficult to use your hands so be careful.
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Post by DMScotty on Feb 7, 2014 9:04:45 GMT
...yes the foil will conduct the heat. so if you use the high temp gun be careful.
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Post by thedmg on Feb 7, 2014 12:06:58 GMT
My tiles dried fine, there is no issue with white glue not drying as the foil is not flat on the glue. That being said (as you can see it is messy) the hot glue helps seal the edges. It does take time for the glue to dry properly, however air does flow through the corrugation and air pockets are trapped in the foil. I put it infront of a fan and it was baseable in 5 minutes. You can use other glues if cost is not a problem. I just like to use things that people already have, or are available everywhere. The tiles are quite durable and the effect looks really good. I got the idea from a shape holding terrain product from woodland scenics. Obviously it doesn't hold the shape, hence building up the terrain with cardboard, but the surface effect works nicely.
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Post by DMScotty on Feb 7, 2014 14:07:41 GMT
Foil is an old Hollywood miniature trick. They used to use it to make rock faces and such in older movies.
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Post by skunkape on Feb 7, 2014 16:57:24 GMT
I just like to use things that people already have, or are available everywhere. Always a good philosophy when making tutorials so that it will easy for other people to adapt and follow along on their own!
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Post by pedrodevaca on Feb 7, 2014 17:55:58 GMT
There's 1001 different ways to make these things. There is no 'right' way. I like DMG's challenge to himself to make stuff for pennies. To meet his objective, white glue is the 'right' tool. But others may be inspired by the technique but have not given themselves the same challenge and other glues could be the 'right' tool for them. Keeping things 'as dirt cheap as possible' isn't a challenge I have posed to myself, but I can appreciate the creative way DMG has found to meet his own objectives and challenges. When any of us build something that we like and that meets our own 'crafting objectives / challenges' then it was built the 'right' way. It's incredibly similar to DM style. If I wanted to get psycho-analytical, I'd say that it is no coincidence most of us on this forum enjoy DMing and enjoy crafting - they use many of the same skills and return many of the same rewards. There is no 'right' way to DM or play an RPG, that's the awesome thing about tabletop RPGs versus computer RPGs or other tabletop games. A technique that works great for one DM may not work well with another DM's group, often because the goals of the groups are different. That will always be the case and bears no reflection on the quality of the idea. Me personally, my crafting challenge is to reproduce the major published encounter spaces for Jade Regent AP (for no good reason, just cuz I want to) that looks good enough to satisfy the 1/72nd WW2 diorama building child inside of me, and get the adult-male "!!I HAVE MADE FIRE!!" feeling when I am done. To meet those objectives, I might be inspired by a DMG concept (or any of the bountiful supply of awesome ideas on this forum) but build it using techniques more familiar to the model rail-road building community. Even my dusty,aged, esoteric tome 'How to Build Dioramas' by Shepard Paine (Expert7/Wiz10) has been getting decent use. For me, that is the 'right' way to build.... for now at least Stay supportive, stay classy
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Post by thedmg on Feb 7, 2014 22:59:25 GMT
I built a lifesize cave for a test scene for a screenplay I wrote.
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Post by grym247 on Feb 13, 2014 15:41:33 GMT
I built a lifesize cave for a test scene for a screenplay I wrote. Awesomeness
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Post by thedmg on Feb 13, 2014 23:30:45 GMT
It took me days to build. We shot for 2 hours. 30 minutes later the rain and wind came and destroyed it all. That's film making My Afghani friend's father translated the dialogue. Neither of the actors spoke Farsi, but were taught the lines phonetically. The one actor is Persian and the other South African. The make-up artist forgot the beards I also built the rocket launcher from scratch, even though you only see it fleetingly it really adds a lot to the scene. John Terilli is Australia's only professional Mr Universe winner. I filmed a documentary on him and I cooked up an idea about a Rambo character who plays D&D that finds out the daughter he never knew he had has been kidnapped by the Russian mob. In the style of Commando and other 80s and early 90s action faire. Like most low budget films, the word BUDGET and paying for it are the most difficult part of the equation.
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robagd
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Post by robagd on Feb 14, 2014 1:55:33 GMT
Started tinkering
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Post by robagd on Feb 14, 2014 6:47:28 GMT
So first pass
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Post by akondo913 on Feb 14, 2014 14:18:41 GMT
Robagd, really like that color scheme looks very natural.
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Post by skunkape on Feb 14, 2014 16:02:32 GMT
Yes robagd, that is a nice color scheme! What is the color breakdown if you don't mind telling!
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Post by robagd on Feb 14, 2014 16:31:48 GMT
a Medium Brown, a mustardish Yellow and White or Ivory
The yellow is not a very bright or poppy yellow but not quite a pastel.
Painting in not something I am overly good at. It is just something I have never excelled at ( I do ok on mini's but anything else more of a S show )
I am pretty happy with these, I cut up some more tonight, I have a ton of that thin foam that isnt really good for much else, its pretty flimsy stuff.
Thanks for the comments guys
-R
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Post by Bael on Feb 14, 2014 18:51:51 GMT
Those look great, like sand stone.
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