jessi
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Post by jessi on Jan 26, 2014 18:41:24 GMT
I'm about to start a building session and as I was getting the hot glue gun (and hoping I don't get hot glue everywhere) I wondered "why hot glue"? Is it just a matter of dry time vs white glue or is there another reason?
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Post by monkeywithtacos on Jan 26, 2014 18:45:08 GMT
I think alot of it is dry time... at least when it comes to the basics, but..... the hot glue also offers some versatility in that you can create textures easily and quickly with it..... or it could just be the quicker dry time.....
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Post by miltonmurphy on Jan 26, 2014 18:49:00 GMT
For my 2 cents, time is a main factor for me but there's also that white glue being liquefied seeps into the piece and can cause warping. That said each has its own sweet spot. Hot glue melts certain materials (foam, acetate, thin plastics, etc.) and white glue doesn't tightly bond others (glass for example.) Lastly texturing is a nice technique that I (and obviously others) use and it's impossible with white glue since it dries thin. YMMV.
Cheers, MM
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Post by DMNate on Jan 26, 2014 18:53:50 GMT
I use both. Hot glue is just so quick, and sticks to EVERYTHING. But it can add more volume where it's not wanted. I'll use super glue or white glue in those cases. Sometimes that added volume is an asset, though. It can be added as texture. I often use hot glue for shape, then use white glue on top of that for flocking.
Likewise, because I use foam a lot, the hot glue gun comes in handy for carving.
Having both is handy. I'd suggest having hot glue, white glue, and super glue around. They are useful for different things.
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dmj
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Post by dmj on Jan 26, 2014 19:30:56 GMT
Definitely have both on hand. I use five different glues for different things. Plastic cement, wood glue, white glue, super glue, and hot glue.
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rifken
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Post by rifken on Jan 26, 2014 19:34:47 GMT
I do what scotty and dmg tell me....
Actually for me its the time thing. Waiting for white glun all the time would prolly push me to do something else
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Post by onethatwas on Jan 26, 2014 20:04:42 GMT
As others have said, its mostly the time saving aspect. BUT the differences in glue properties also make a difference in when to use the different types. White glue, for instance, is more flexible to work with and has the ability to be diluted with water...and also precoloered (somewhat) with food dyes.
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Post by DMScotty on Jan 26, 2014 20:30:11 GMT
All great comments
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Post by adamantinedragon on Jan 26, 2014 20:31:24 GMT
I use both, but I use white glue more than hot glue. I use hot glue mostly for things that don't require a strong and lasting bond, or things that hot glue just works well on. I also use hot glue sometimes just to hold things together so I can glue them more thoroughly with white or super glue.
I also use hot glue when I need some bulking up as part of the gluing. In fact I sometimes use it almost like caulk.
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kerflop
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Post by kerflop on Jan 26, 2014 22:13:23 GMT
I do what scotty and dmg tell me.... Bingo!!! Plus, wait till you try to do a cavern with lots of bends and turns and have to hold the walls on while it dries Hot glue for the win!!!
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Post by thedmg on Jan 27, 2014 10:47:05 GMT
Laziness. Hot glue is quick and easy. The perfect lazy persons glue.
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Post by skunkape on Jan 27, 2014 17:38:05 GMT
I go mostly with wood glue for gluing pieces together. If I want a fast bond, I'll usually put down wood glue first, leaving the 4 corners bare, which I'll apply a spot of hot glue for fast sticking, then the piece will finally firm up once the wood glue sets. That's usually areas with large coverage!
I use white glue whenever I'm doing something that I need to spread flock on or something similar.
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Post by pedrodevaca on Jan 27, 2014 19:30:42 GMT
Hot glue is vastly superior! With white glue there is little to no opportunity to burn yourself and you don't get to use a gun
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Post by ashrothedm on Jan 27, 2014 19:50:02 GMT
Sometimes I get impatient waiting for hot glue to dry, even when I am dipping it in cool water. White glue dives me insane with dry time. But, each has a place.
Hot glue can melt some materials, tends to require more for adhesion, and really tickles when you get it on your finger. If I'm going to peel skin off of a glue accident, I'd rather it be the fake skin from white glue occasionally.
Edit: Lay down some parchment paper, hot glue does not stick to that.
Edit Edit: Parchment, not wax. Oops!
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Post by sgtslag on Jan 27, 2014 20:25:29 GMT
Actually, Hot Glue will stick to wax paper. Parchment paper is immune to Hot Glue, and pretty much everything else -- even acrylic paint will just flake off from it, when dry. Parchment paper is more expensive (grocery store, baking supplies aisle), but it is an amazing, non-stick surface to use. I re-use mine as much as possible, before I replace it -- it will absorb moisture, and deform/wrinkle, but most glues won't stick to it, when dry. Cheers!
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Post by Sleepy Hollow Mike on Jan 27, 2014 21:11:45 GMT
Good call on the parchment paper Sarge! I have used it for years with my wet palette but now I find I have the means sitting in my closet all along! No more messes!
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Post by grym247 on Jan 28, 2014 3:15:10 GMT
different glues for different occasions, you will find you will need both, White glue will be needed to stick down any sand you apply as a texture, hot glue fast bonds so can keep crafting as well as textures, both you will find have many many uses
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Post by dmdubbledee on Jan 31, 2014 2:09:29 GMT
Already gestured to, but worth noting that white glue gives you more time to place and manipulate objects, where the fast-drying time of hot glue can make it difficult to do finicky jobs. Still, burning plastic coming out of a gun. How on earth do you beat that? Tomorrow night will be my first crack at actually integrating the glue gun into play. A one-handed fallen paladin on a quest to reclaim his right hand, his holy sword, and his paladinhood will likely find his hand in a destructible crate. If he survives the poison, then I'm going to let him glue the hand--a little hand broken off from a figurine of some kind--to his character sheet. I mean, really. Any excuse. . .
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