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Post by erho on Nov 10, 2021 15:03:42 GMT
Heres a Nurgle version of the classic Heroquest Chaos Warrior someone over at Thingiverse made: Never painted a Nurgle guy before, all the disease and guts hanging out isnt my favorite cup o' tea!
It was fun and quick, just two evenings, mostly because of the oil wash takes forever to dry.
Cheers everyone!
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Post by sgtslag on Nov 10, 2021 21:23:35 GMT
I am a h-u-g-e fan of the classic Dip Technique, using Minwax Polyshades Urethane Stain. I hate the drying time of 2-4 days! I started out drying my mini's in my electric oven, set at its lowest temperature of 170 F. We moved and installed a gas stove/oven -- using an open flame was not an option, due to the solvent fumes emitted during heating. I bought a Slow Cooker/Crock Pot, at Wal-Mart ($12-$30+), for around $30 (bought a 7-quart model for use with larger terrain pieces). The Low heat setting is... 170 F! I use it solely for mini's and terrain, to avoid food contamination. I fill it as full as possible, load it with Dip'ed mini's/terrain, turn it on Low Heat, and come back in 30 minutes: they are dry as a bone! I run it out in my garage, to let the fumes escape harmlessly, without stinking up my house. It can also be used to cure PVA Glue, if desired; anything in which heat can speed the curing process can be used with the Slow Cooker. It is a dry heat, no sparks, no muss, no fuss. Worth the investment. Cheers!
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Post by dafrca on Nov 11, 2021 22:43:24 GMT
I am a h-u-g-e fan of the classic Dip Technique, using Minwax Polyshades Urethane Stain. I hate the drying time of 2-4 days! I started out drying my mini's in my electric oven, set at its lowest temperature of 170 F. We moved and installed a gas stove/oven -- using an open flame was not an option, due to the solvent fumes emitted during heating. I bought a Slow Cooker/Crock Pot, at Wal-Mart ($12-$30+), for around $30 (bought a 7-quart model for use with larger terrain pieces). The Low heat setting is... 170 F! I use it solely for mini's and terrain, to avoid food contamination. I fill it as full as possible, load it with Dip'ed mini's/terrain, turn it on Low Heat, and come back in 30 minutes: they are dry as a bone! I run it out in my garage, to let the fumes escape harmlessly, without stinking up my house. It can also be used to cure PVA Glue, if desired; anything in which heat can speed the curing process can be used with the Slow Cooker. It is a dry heat, no sparks, no muss, no fuss. Worth the investment. Cheers! Just curious, when you do speed up the cure process, do you see an increase in chipping or glue being more brittle? I know back in the day using zipkicker on super glue did cause it to be more brittle and thus sometime easier to break the bond. Curious if the slow cook method has a similar effect?
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Post by dafrca on Nov 11, 2021 22:44:24 GMT
Heres a Nurgle version of the classic Heroquest Chaos Warrior someone over at Thingiverse made: I think it looks great. Well done.
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Post by sgtslag on Nov 12, 2021 2:23:48 GMT
No issues after 10+ years and 200+ mini's. I use yellow PVA Glue (attach sand to base after figure is glued) and E6000 glue (to attach mini's to their MDF bases) as my primary tools. Cheers!
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Post by dafrca on Nov 12, 2021 3:25:22 GMT
No issues after 10+ years and 200+ mini's. I use yellow PVA Glue (attach sand to base after figure is glued) and E6000 glue (to attach mini's to their MDF bases) as my primary tools. Cheers! That is good. I do know not all curing acceleration is "bad" so I was just curious.
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Post by sgtslag on Nov 12, 2021 14:51:20 GMT
In the past, I Dip'ed plastic Army Men figures, curing them in my Crock Pot, as well; the urethane stain flakes off after 5-10 years (air drying or heat, it still flakes off -- tenuous adherence to the plastic), so I stopped, but I may start up again...
I used Hot Glue to attach the figures to their 50mm MDF bases. Hot Glue melts at around 300 F, so the 170 F of the Crock Pot had no adverse effect on the Hot Glue -- it was not hot enough to melt it. The Hot Glue is also a fantastic adhesive to use on soft plastic figures -- apply it sparingly, but with enough to fully cover the figure's base, for maximum strength. Excess Hot Glue can be cut away from the figure/base with a sharp razor knife, to clean up any excess, once it is hardened. It is one of the few glues which actually will adhere, with a very decent amount of strength, to such soft plastic figures; it can be peeled off of the soft plastic, but it takes effort, meaning it won't come off unless you want it to, or you step on it. Cheers!
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Post by erho on Nov 12, 2021 15:23:52 GMT
The oil dip I use may be a few bucks cheaper but it does dry in about an hour or two. $4 oil paint tube and $8 can of white spirits.
As for resin(UV hardening at least) minis, I put one in front of a space heater on lowest setting for no more than 5 minutes to dry once, it had cracked nearly in two and was leaking a clear resin that would not harden or dry the rest of the day.
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Post by sgtslag on Nov 12, 2021 19:12:39 GMT
Another niggling detail... I let the solvent-based E6000 cure for 24+ hours before I ever put those mini's into the Crock Pot. I base them, first, then paint, apply the PVA Glue and sand mixture to the base, then I Dip & bake. In other words, I let the glues (water-based, solvent-based, and Hot Glue) cure before I heat them in the Crock Pot. The heat has never adversely affected any of the three types, to my knowledge (200+ mini's), thus far. The limited temperature of 170 F is likely not hot enough, nor long enough (30-60 minutes) to damage the glues. Cheers!
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