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Post by sgtslag on Oct 9, 2015 3:43:17 GMT
I used some Caesar Elves figures, cut in half at the waist, glued to some inexpensive Halloween spiders, from Michael's Craft Store. I had to trim off the protrusions on the heads of the spiders, but other than that, the only thing needed was some E6000 Glue, to attach the Elves to the spiders. I also used the E6000 Glue to attach several of the spider's legs to the sandy base surfaces. The Elves were primed with White Gesso, then painted with cheap craft paints. After that, they were painted with Minwax Polyshades urethane-stain, Royal Walnut color. I painted on a red, and gray, symbol on the rear portion of the spider bodies, to give them some color. Here is a still shot, and a link to a slideshow.
Drider with a Human Wizard figure. As you can see, the Caesar Elves are 1/72 scale, or roughly 25mm tall, when whole. I used them to closely match the relative sizes of Elves versus Humans, per Gary Gygax, in his 1977 AD&D Monster Manual. Cheers!
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Post by bluecloud2k2 on Oct 9, 2015 16:55:41 GMT
Great job converting bits (especially the cheap bits!) in this Kitbash. I'm impressed.
The only knit I'm picking is this: I dunno what the other editions of DnD are, but in Pathfinder they are large (2-inch base). You're looks like a three incher. I'd still use it because I don't give a rats ass about the base of the monster being the wrong size (My Aboleth's Base is half an inch larger than it should be). Just be aware of players who must have everything by the book (I fight that instinct in myself a lot more lately)
Also, the flocking on the base looks good, just incomplete. I would have used white yarn to lay out a spider's web over the stone, then gone over that with thin strips of shreaded TP and white glue. While the glue was still wet, add a few drops Super Glue to start setting it up and get a nice organic look.
Just my two cents.
Oh, and Exhalt!
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Post by sgtslag on Oct 9, 2015 17:54:17 GMT
i appreciate the input. I felt the bases were too basic, as well. Didn't really know what to do to jazz them up -- until now... I did not look up the size, per 2nd Edition rules. I just got caught up in slapping them together. I considered cutting, and re-posing the spider legs, to fit them on a smaller base -- they are 3" bases, by the way. I need to look them up, to get an idea of their "proper" sizes, before I embark on finishing their bases. I really appreciate the feedback, and suggestions, along with the exalt. Thank you! Cheers!
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Post by sotf on Oct 9, 2015 18:20:09 GMT
Reposing the legs would probably make them look a lot better. A while back I'd used some spiders similar to that and they looked a whole lot better by squeezing the legs together enough to fit on 2" round bases I had around. A lot of the cheap spiders are just to low to the ground for it.
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Post by DnDPaladin on Oct 9, 2015 20:09:29 GMT
its a bit of trouble to do that. but bending the legs goes a long way into making those cheap spiders much more aggressive looking. and i think you could of used a tad bigger upper body.
aside from those two things, awesome job, its cool to have driders !
blue, who cares about sizes... in D&D its much better to fight things that are just way bigger then it is to fight things that are just smaller. take the exemple of the attack x wing line of d&d product. i understand it was made as a war gaming board game like thing. but really those minis are just too small for my taste. i mean i have a medium sized gargoyle fromt he 3.5 era. and if i compare it to the new one in attack x wing... the attack x wing one looks like a tiny small halfling. i got large dragons from original 3.5. and compared to attack x wing.. their huge sized dragons are just even smaller then my large ones.
yeah i definitely would say the bigger the better man ! who cares about sizes.
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Post by sgtslag on Oct 9, 2015 22:03:00 GMT
All of my figures pull triple-duty: RPG's, 2nd Ed. BattleSystem, and BattleSystem Skirmish games. Base sizes do matter for the latter two applications. I need to check into that to see if a 3" base is too big. I agree, the 1/72 Elf body appears small, but I'm retro-ing back to 1st Ed. size ratios, so it is appropriate for my particular application, even though it looks too small.
For the legs, I'm thinking I can cut them at a joint, and glue them with E6000. That will change the appearance, and 'attitude', greatly, if they were higher up. I'll try to get to it in the next few days. Cheers!
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Post by bluecloud2k2 on Oct 10, 2015 17:20:32 GMT
You can also repose so she's rearing up on the back four and lashing out the with front four (think horse rearing-back). Might help with fitting on the smaller base.
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Post by ogrestamp on Oct 11, 2015 7:27:43 GMT
You could go for a shot like this. This is a trap door spider, but I've seen (rather, I've made) tarantulas do the same thing.
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Post by bluecloud2k2 on Oct 11, 2015 10:40:18 GMT
ARE YOU TRYING TO GIVE ME A HEART ATTACK!?
Spoiler that s*** next time!
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Post by sgtslag on Oct 12, 2015 17:42:02 GMT
Now THAT is a neat idea! Hmmm... I like that. I've never seen anything like it done on a Drider before. It would jazz up the basic figure into something a bit more exciting. I am definitely going to have to play with that idea and see if it is easily done. Only thing is that the underside of the spider figure is hollow, but I have modeling putty and such to sort that out. Thanks for the ideas! Cheers!
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Post by curufin on Oct 12, 2015 18:27:53 GMT
Only thing is that the underside of the spider figure is hollow, You may be able to put a piece of wire into the hollow area, add a little hot glue to hold it in place and then bend the wire (and the spider) into a new pose and then just fill in the rest of the hollow area with hot glue.
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Post by bluecloud2k2 on Oct 12, 2015 19:28:23 GMT
Now THAT is a neat idea! Hmmm... I like that. I've never seen anything like it done on a Drider before. It would jazz up the basic figure into something a bit more exciting. I am definitely going to have to play with that idea and see if it is easily done. Only thing is that the underside of the spider figure is hollow, but I have modeling putty and such to sort that out. Thanks for the ideas! Cheers! Glad you liked it.
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Post by ogrestamp on Oct 13, 2015 7:59:43 GMT
Funny story related to that pic. About two years ago my wife and my son were in the garage fiddling with some laundry. It was summer time, I believe, since my son was out there barefoot. He feels something go over his foot and looked down to see this big spider sitting next to his foot. It was about half dollar size. It had actually ran over his foot. They trapped it and waited until I got home (because they know I like that sort of stuff). I put it in a jar and a day later my niece's husband came over (he is a reptile and spider guy), and we pulled out my book of US spiders, a cool ID guide, and found that it was a juvenile tarantula (they live out here but are sort of rare- although this is the second tarantula I have found out here).
I let it go outside in the front on our wooden retaining wall. It just sat there not doing anything. So, me being curious, I grabbed a long stick and started tapping next to it. That spider suddenly reared up like the one in the photo. It was scary and rather cool at the same time. I let it alone but went back out about 10 minutes later and that spider was still in the same position. Dumb spider!
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Post by DnDPaladin on Oct 13, 2015 20:45:39 GMT
probably was too old and got stuck in that position. i know i would if i ever did that kind of position. XD
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Post by adamantinedragon on Oct 14, 2015 4:40:04 GMT
I've got driders I've made from cheap plastic spiders and cheap Caesar miniature elves. They work great.
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Post by sgtslag on Aug 18, 2022 22:28:12 GMT
Moved the album to a new Google location, from Photobucket. Link is here. Cheers!
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Post by margaret on Aug 19, 2022 15:37:54 GMT
Thanks for posting your new album link!
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