dmstoky
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Post by dmstoky on Feb 23, 2014 7:28:44 GMT
Hey there! So I have been playing around with my Steampunk DnD group and i needed to make a desert/ arid region. I decided to make a battle mat with the basic biome features! To make the mat, I laid strips of duct tape on top of each other, so that an entire side would have the adhesive. I then put the sand onto the adhesive side and generously applied it were it was lacking. It held up nicely the first few weeks, but now it is starting to look a little ratted up. I want to try to reapply a layer of sand, but this time I want to use a spray adhesive instead of the duct tape adhesive. In your experience what has worked for you- as far as spray adhesive goes?
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Post by stroezie on Feb 23, 2014 8:21:21 GMT
If you want a more durable fix, mix the sand with latex paint and paint that on. It's also less likely to scrach your minis that way.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2014 8:27:06 GMT
First, it is very important that you use that stuff outside, very well ventilated area, and wear a dust mask, if it gets in your lungs, you will not be a happy old man (who everyone calls "Old Wheezy").
That being said, I recommend using 3M's Hi-Strength 90, its about as serious as spray laminate adhesives get, and I think it would withstand years of use in a gaming capacity.
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dmstoky
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Post by dmstoky on Feb 23, 2014 14:45:23 GMT
Thank you so much!! I'm going to try these out next time I get money!
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Post by sgtslag on Feb 23, 2014 14:57:37 GMT
The simpler, non-toxic method, is to brush on PVA/White Glue, then cover the wet glue with sand. You can leave the sand in place, for 24-hours, or you can tip the piece on edge, letting the loose sand fall into a tub, or tray, to be captured and re-used. Let it dry completely, then brush on a second coat of PVA to firmly secure it into place. You can use knock-off brands, avoiding the cost of the Elmer's name. It dries mostly clear, however, Elmer's now makes a clear formula, which seems to be just as good as the white formula. There is a product made by Woodland Scenics, called, Scenic Cement. Scenic Cement is similar to watered-down PVA (waiting for the MSDS to confirm what it is made of). This stuff is meant to be either brushed on, or sprayed on, with a pump bottle. It is not as strong as using full-strength PVA, but it works, and it is incredibly convenient to use. It is available where they sell model train stuff. Cheers! Update: I received the MSDS on Scenic Cement, and it did not reveal what it is made of, only that it is non-toxic, just like PVA Glue. Can't say for certain that it is, in fact, watered down PVA Glue. Sorry.
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Post by adamantinedragon on Feb 23, 2014 16:47:47 GMT
I've used white glue and then topped it with a light spray of matte sealer. Worked fine and was cost effective.
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