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Post by frumpyandy on Dec 25, 2013 16:00:58 GMT
Hey folks, after watching a number of DM Scotty's videos, I've decided I want to try using his techniques for my upcoming near-future space campaign. It will be fairly dark, with horror and mystery undertones. The first tile I'm making is an exploration class space ship. I'm trying to come up with a good method to achieve a dark metal finish for the tile. I've built one of the tiles and done the black undercoat. I also did the wall edging as per DM Scotty's technique using a mix of the following colors: metallic gunmetal gray, metallic sequin black, and dolphin grey. The result is nice, but I'd like some advice on how to handle the floors.
In addition to the colors mentioned above I have dark gray, pewter gray, and antique parchment. I'm sure I can use these to achieve the right color for what I'm looking for, but does anyone have any tips on how I should approach the floors? I'd say the Mass Effect games and the Alien series of movies are appropriate influences. The ship is new, so I don't need any aging or weathering, mainly just an appropriate pattern or patterns to use and technique for applying it. Thanks in advance for any tips or ideas you can give to a new tile builder.
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Post by gnomezrule on Dec 25, 2013 16:29:14 GMT
Do you have access to old window screens. Cut them to fit the floor it would grant that industrial look from Alien. A nice brown wash might make it look really rusty.
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Post by frumpyandy on Dec 25, 2013 16:57:29 GMT
Do you have access to old window screens. Cut them to fit the floor it would grant that industrial look from Alien. A nice brown wash might make it look really rusty. Indeed I do actually! I think this would work nicely for some of the ship. However, I would like for at least some of the ship to have solid flooring. Thanks for the tip! I will definitely be trying various paint colors and techniques on some screen to see how it turns out.
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Post by neil on Dec 25, 2013 17:08:20 GMT
I would say look at games like space hulk ect and try to replicate how they did floors. I believe you are on the right track with black undercoat - then add dark grey then dry brush a metal color. I have never created near future floor tiles so this is all theory, but looking at pics on the net and then saying how would I do something similar is a starting point. I would like to see what you come up with.
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Post by DMScotty on Dec 25, 2013 17:47:11 GMT
Cardstock applied to the floor in interesting patterns can make for some wonderful spaceship or futuristic tiles.
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Post by frumpyandy on Dec 25, 2013 23:47:14 GMT
Cardstock applied to the floor in interesting patterns can make for some wonderful spaceship or futuristic tiles. This idea resonated. I cut out a number of card stock blocks in various sizes, 1"x1" up to 2"x3". I undercoated them all with the black metallic paint, then tried 3 different techniques with 1"x1" pieces. I can't decide what looks best so please, any feedback is much appreciated. The flash makes it all look a little shinier than it looks under normal lighting. . Attachment Deleted
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Post by kokigami on Dec 26, 2013 10:49:58 GMT
top, generally. depending on how you want to suggest lighting. Top suggest a pendant, or single point above. bottom left suggests some kind of sconces. bottom right doesn't suggest any specific light source. For a larger area, top lighting could be enhanced with multiple pools of brighter paint..
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Post by frumpyandy on Dec 26, 2013 13:49:52 GMT
top, generally. depending on how you want to suggest lighting. Top suggest a pendant, or single point above. bottom left suggests some kind of sconces. bottom right doesn't suggest any specific light source. For a larger area, top lighting could be enhanced with multiple pools of brighter paint.. Thanks for the feedback kokigami, but I don't think you get what I'm wanting to do with the squares. I'm going to tile them. I want to figure out the best way to paint them that each individual piece stands out (and they're of varying shapes and sizes as mentioned above) and they look good together. Attached is an example of what I mean that I patched together from my original image. It wouldn't look this uniform because each tile would be individually painted, and not all the tiles are 1"x1", but this is the basic idea: Attachment DeletedI guess my overall questions are: 1) Are there any techniques I should try that I haven't covered in my 3 already depicted (darker at borders, lighter at borders, and outlined) that would look better? 2) Of the 3 techniques (plus any I haven't tried yet), which would look best in a tiled pattern as depicted in this post's attachment?
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Post by miltonmurphy on Dec 26, 2013 15:40:05 GMT
These are the things I would try: - Very gradual highlighting (with edges not as bright as those pictured) if the metal is intended to be dull.
- I always think "rivets" sell metal plating.
- Depending on the stressing you can also add in rust, buckling (by bending the tile and doing a highlight.)
- Doing a black highlight of the seams between the "plates" will help it pop.
Looking forward to hearing the results of the tests to add to my Craft Forumlae.
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Post by frumpyandy on Dec 26, 2013 16:02:44 GMT
Thanks miltonmurphy, I think you're right about the gradual highlighting. I'm going to try again, with light in the middle fading to darker on the edges (I think that's the best look overall), but this time with some of the dark mixed with the gunmetal so there isn't AS much difference between the light and dark.
I also very much plan on adding rivets, maybe with a sharpie or something.
The black highlight of the seams will be achieved by the background being black, and there'll be tiny gaps between the tiles. I'll try to get a better looking few tiles together, place them on my terrain, and post a photo of the progress as soon as I get some time to work on it. In the meantime, I'm very open to more tips and suggestions.
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Post by spankytaz on Dec 26, 2013 17:02:47 GMT
As to the rivets. Might I recommend this YouTube idea from Fear Da Alien - Rivets from an iTunes card and hole punchPrior to finding this I, used to turn any leftover green stuff I had from crafting something into very thin 'snakes' and then slicing them into rivets. The hole punching is a true time-saver and I tend to destroy any old plasti-card this way while watching TV, etc. The green stuff still gets used, but now I tend to make it into damaged, malformed or weird shaped rivets or melta-holes, etc.
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Post by frumpyandy on Dec 26, 2013 17:36:04 GMT
That's a sweet idea spankytaz, thanks for the link! Unfortunately, a leather punch is not in the budget right now, so I'll have to make do with something I've already got on hand.
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Post by thedmg on Dec 26, 2013 23:38:09 GMT
All I have to say is Aluminium Foil...
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Post by valas on Dec 28, 2013 3:17:28 GMT
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Post by frumpyandy on Dec 28, 2013 17:10:47 GMT
Nice! Thanks very much for that. I think that is a great looking alternative to what I ended up doing. For larger floors this is probably the way I'll go, as I'm not a great painter and painting individual tiles is time consuming beyond my time budget. However, I did finish my "test" room, and here is the result. I'm actually pretty happy with it, considering it's my first completed project. Feedback and tips always welcome! Attachment Deleted
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Post by valas on Dec 28, 2013 17:25:52 GMT
Your welcome! Your efforts look great, but it does look time intensive. I have used the floor tiles you can print from there. A little white glue and they are attached to the tiles.
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Post by belatucadras on Dec 28, 2013 19:47:42 GMT
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Post by drathirbarrastudios on Dec 29, 2013 16:34:43 GMT
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