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Post by indigo777 on Sept 25, 2017 15:43:05 GMT
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Post by sgtslag on Sept 25, 2017 18:46:24 GMT
Just saw those yesterday. Love the Zombie ROUS's, but it looked like only two per pack. Still very affordable, but hate to pitch the rest. Thanks for sharing. Cheers!
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Post by lordmorbius on Sept 26, 2017 12:09:19 GMT
This bag o' zombies has a lot of potential.
The zombie dogs are great. The headstones are large, but still usable. The crawling half zombie could be what is left of a hill giant for scale. The other zombies could be chopped up make severed heads, crawling hands, etc.
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Post by lordmorbius on Oct 2, 2017 6:17:59 GMT
Has anyone tried painting these zombie minis yet? I haven't gotten around to it yet, but I stumbled across a youtube video that claims they don't hold paint very well youtube vid
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Post by indigo777 on Oct 2, 2017 11:43:17 GMT
According to various cheap plastic Army Men painters you have to use an Automobile primer to paint the type of plastic they are molded in. Some also recommended using krylon's Rustoleum spray paint primer instead of the flat black primer most crafters use.
The material little plastic bulk figures are made of is usually referred to as "Unpaintable plastic" in the Toy customization communities. It is usually Polyoxymethylene or Polyamide plastic. It is usually used in joints and other places on a toy that will encounter a lot of stress during play. They mold bulk army men out of the stuff so it holds up to kids.
I did a search on the net and tons of army men painters are recommending the White Automobile Primer and then using regular craft paints like apple barrel on top of the primer. Remember to clean the minis with a dish soap, water, and an old toothbrush as well to remove the mold release residue so the primer sticks.
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Post by lordmorbius on Oct 3, 2017 2:42:50 GMT
According to various cheap plastic Army Men painters you have to use an Automobile primer to paint the type of plastic they are molded in. Some also recommended using krylon's Rustoleum spray paint primer instead of the flat black primer most crafters use. The material little plastic bulk figures are made of is usually referred to as "Unpaintable plastic" in the Toy customization communities. It is usually Polyoxymethylene or Polyamide plastic. It is usually used in joints and other places on a toy that will encounter a lot of stress during play. They mold bulk army men out of the stuff so it holds up to kids. I did a search on the net and tons of army men painters are recommending the White Automobile Primer and then using regular craft paints like apple barrel on top of the primer. Remember to clean the minis with a dish soap, water, and an old toothbrush as well to remove the mold release residue so the primer sticks. Good info to know. Thanks for the tip.
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Post by sgtslag on Oct 3, 2017 4:55:04 GMT
There are a couple of ways to paint these:
1) Prime with Artist's Gesso (black, white, or gray, not clear...), then paint normally.
2) Paint all the bits that are different than the plastic's color, with just acrylic craft paint.
3) Use auto-primer, or Krylon's Paint for Plastic, color of your choice, as a 'primer.'
Whatever painting approach you take, the best sealing/finishing method, is to either paint them with 50% PVA/Water mix (old school, but it works), or apply The Dip, Minwax Polyshades Urethane Stain, Tudor (black), or Royal Walnut (dirty, muddy brown), by brushing it on, and soaking the pooling excess, five minutes later, with the edge of a paper towel. Can take a couple of days to fully cure.
Either the PVA Glue, or The Dip, will give them a long-lasting coat over their paint. Try not to handle them too roughly, as the plastic will still flex, and the paint will eventually rub off with such rough handling. Cheers!
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Post by indigo777 on Oct 3, 2017 19:27:13 GMT
There are a couple of ways to paint these: 1) Prime with Artist's Gesso (black, white, or gray, not clear...), then paint normally. 2) Paint all the bits that are different than the plastic's color, with just acrylic craft paint. 3) Use auto-primer, or Krylon's Paint for Plastic, color of your choice, as a 'primer.' Whatever painting approach you take, the best sealing/finishing method, is to either paint them with 50% PVA/Water mix (old school, but it works), or apply The Dip, Minwax Polyshades Urethane Stain, Tudor (black), or Royal Walnut (dirty, muddy brown), by brushing it on, and soaking the pooling excess, five minutes later, with the edge of a paper towel. Can take a couple of days to fully cure. Either the PVA Glue, or The Dip, will give them a long-lasting coat over their paint. Try not to handle them too roughly, as the plastic will still flex, and the paint will eventually rub off with such rough handling. Cheers! Blandco posted a video a video on youtube showing that Krylon Plastic Fusion, Gesso, craft paints, pva glue, modpodge and Velejo primer wasn't bonding with the plastic. Apparently sealing the minis with a varnish/sealer didn't help keep the paint on either.
The army men painting community recommends using Automobile primer as it apparently bonds to this type of plastic. Several comments under the video recommend Rustoleum as well. I haven't had a chance to get either to see if it works yet.
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Post by adamsouza on Oct 3, 2017 22:23:43 GMT
Well, I bought 15 bags for the hounds. I'll let you know how they hold up once I get around to basing and painting them.
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Post by indigo777 on Oct 3, 2017 23:25:13 GMT
I just tried an old can of Rustoleum enamel primer I found out in my shed. Seems to have worked on the Dollar General skeletons so far. They were slightly tacky to the touch but I painted Gesso over that to fix it. They seem fine now. So far no paint cracking while moving and the paints not peeling. Definetly going to have to seal them with some pledge future shine though as the gesso don't hold up to the fingernail test.
Mech Head Studios also posted a video about priming them:
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Post by adamsouza on Oct 5, 2017 14:29:01 GMT
In all fairness, that guy started doing stuff to those plastic minis that would have destoryed metal or resin figures, as well as their paint jobs.
Will they ever hold up to abuse like a prepainted plastic D&D miniature ? No.
Those D&D figures are in the $3-$4 range per figure, in the blind packs. These zombies and skeletons are less than $.10 each, and will likely do well if you treated them like a 40K figure, instead of prepainted army men you can toss in a pile.
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Post by sgtslag on Oct 5, 2017 23:34:29 GMT
adamsouza , I agree, absolutely. If you treat them rough, the paint won't last; if you treat them as you would well painted metal figures, the paint will last quite a while. I painted army men figures, applying craft paint directly to the plastic, sans primer. I only painted the parts which differed from the color of the plastic. I then sealed them with Minwax Polyshades Urethane Stain. The paint lasted 5+ years, with the figures tossed into a bin, en masse. Now, 10-15 years later, the paint is coming off of their rifles, and other long, thin parts. 10-15 years!Like most things, you can easily manipulate the outcome to suit your pre-conceived ideas. I have hundreds of plastic skeletons, and other cheap plastic figures which I've painted, and which I game with. I just laugh when I see such nonsensical manipulation of the facts. My motto is, and always shall be, " Experimentation is king, Baby!" I look for input, and experiences by others, but I watch, and read, with a critical eye. I do not take posts as gospel, even if they sound reasonable. If I did, I would have missed out on so very much... YMMV. Cheers! PS:The one video stated that priming the figures with polyurethane + gray paint, worked very well. Another vote for polyurethane... Yay! Go Minwax! Basing these types of figures will go a very long way towards preserving your paint. If you handle them by the base, they will fare much better, last much longer. With a base, I instinctively reach for their base, not the figure. It also minimizes the tendency to throw them in a bin!... LOL! Cheers +2!
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Post by lordmorbius on Oct 6, 2017 13:05:44 GMT
In all fairness, that guy started doing stuff to those plastic minis that would have destroyed metal or resin figures, as well as their paint jobs. That's actually a good point you make there.
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Post by lordmorbius on Oct 31, 2017 3:50:12 GMT
Back to the original topic, about the discount store toy zombie, I've tried my hand at seeing what I could make from them.
I posted my results on my youtube channel.
Here is what I came up with...
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