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Post by Meph on Mar 1, 2016 19:45:46 GMT
I just got the email from Dwarven Forge. Their next kickstarter begins this Sunday and is castles! Now I guess I gotta decide if I want to throw too much money at Dwarven Forge or too much time at printing Winterdale II. They are only at 6k so far so I don't see them ever reaching the graveyard. Guess it will depend on how pricey the Dwarven Forge is....I am sure it will be more than I care to spend. Anyways, here are a couple pics until the kickstarter begins on Sunday.
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Post by jennifer on Mar 1, 2016 19:49:49 GMT
I notice from your game photos that you have quite a large group playing. Wouldn't the Dwarven Forge (the pre-painted stuff even) be affordable enough for you if you all divided the costs evenly? It'd save you so much time printing and painting. I know how busy you are with your family, arcade machines, pinball machines, battling floods, work etc.. And it'd free up your time to get back to Frostgrave crafting! So I can get more ideas from you If you'd like, I'll send you the sample set of Dwarven Forge I got (3 pieces) so your group can check out the pieces, feel the weight of them, observe the factory paint job etc.
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Post by sgtslag on Mar 1, 2016 20:08:13 GMT
Cast castles are uber-expensive, no matter who makes them. Even the foam castles from years past, were uber-expensive. Looking forward to seeing what DF comes out with, but I won't be spending my hobby dollars on their products. I can make my own, using commercial PDF's, for a tiny fraction of DF's cost. Not the same quality, of course, but my hobby budget cannot support a resin-cast castle... Castles do not get used enough to justify the cost.
With 3D printing coming of age, the market for the DF castle will have a limited window of opportunity, as well, IMO. I have a couple in 'paper + wood' construction, and I've only used them in my games a couple of times over the past 15 years. They are nice to have, but very rarely do they actually see table time. I believe they will sell fewer copies of the castle than they do their modular dungeons and cavern sets. Time will tell, though. Cheers!
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Post by Meph on Mar 1, 2016 20:34:44 GMT
I notice from your game photos that you have quite a large group playing. Wouldn't the Dwarven Forge (the pre-painted stuff even) be affordable enough for you if you all divided the costs evenly? It'd save you so much time printing and painting. I know how busy you are with your family, arcade machines, pinball machines, battling floods, work etc.. And it'd free up your time to get back to Frostgrave crafting! So I can get more ideas from you If you'd like, I'll send you the sample set of Dwarven Forge I got (3 pieces) so your group can check out the pieces, feel the weight of them, observe the factory paint job etc. Yes I have a large group but only a few after willing to spend anything. I have hands down spent more than the rest of the group combined on our games. At one point we offered extra XP for any player that bought their own mini for their character....other than the other DM, nobody bothered. If they can't spend money for $3-5 mini for their characters, I don't see them chipping in for Dwarven Forge. I have always taken the approach that my play money is my play money. If I make $1500 selling a couple arcade machines then I have $1500 to spend towards a new Pinball, more arcade stuff, D&D minis, or a surprise vacation for us. I do enough with arcade stuff in the year that I don't usually mind putting money into my hobbies. The more I think of it, I probably wont get into the Castle kickstarter. Like sgtslag says, it really is limited use. I would have loved to get into their City kickstarter because I think that stuff is awesome and highly useable, but the problem is that it just costs so much. To layout a small section of a city or town will run you thousands. They aren't worth that much to me. I may pickup some Dwarven Forge tiles soon but if I do they will be specialized tiles. Something I can't print or can't print well.
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Post by jennifer on Mar 1, 2016 21:42:08 GMT
Meph, I am ordering a 4" castle mold from Hirst, just for the curved wall for modular dungeon walls essentially.. but I will be making myself a 4" castle (might as well). I can make you one as well if you like, just for the shipping cost (what about $10) and a few dollars for the hydrostone. (I'd just ship the 18 casts unassembled.) I think it's about 18 casts or something. A bit of work but I'd do it for ya. hirstarts.com/4field/4field.html
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Post by teazia on Mar 2, 2016 11:59:58 GMT
Buy Heroscape terrain and castle sets, a much better and more versatile investment. I bought a ton on the cheap last summer.
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Post by Meph on Mar 6, 2016 16:23:34 GMT
THere are some insane people out there. So the kickstarter launched a couple hours ago and they are already at $114k, that puts it 14k over funded already in about 2 hours. The largest backing level so far is the $980 level which is the highest with 65 backers already. These people must be touched in the head Of course the $980 Castle level only gets you a small castle so I am sure those same people bought another $1000 worth of other levels. I like watching these kickstarters but I refuse to pay that kind of money for this stuff. I will just keep printing away and take that extra $2000 and buy another pinball machine =)
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Post by Meph on Mar 6, 2016 16:24:29 GMT
Lol, in the time it took me to type that post they just went up another $22,000. I am in the wrong line of work.
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Post by birdskull on Mar 6, 2016 17:54:07 GMT
Way too expensive.
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Post by jennifer on Mar 6, 2016 20:42:15 GMT
It's at 1/2 million dollars now Thank goodness for rigid foam insulation!
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Post by pepebe on Mar 7, 2016 9:43:34 GMT
639K in 18h? There is some vile forbidden magic going on.
Anyone who wants to place a bet against them going over the 1 million mark? I won't.
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Post by tauster on Mar 7, 2016 21:32:50 GMT
Absoltuely beautiful tiles, but too expensive. At least for my taste. Nontheless, I don't doubt this will be among the most successful kickstarter projects.
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Post by teazia on Mar 7, 2016 22:43:40 GMT
It's insanity. But I hope they have some smaller add-ons that work well with the older sets that I can piggyback on another order. The dungeon and cavern sets are pretty sweet and were a great deal in the respective Kss.
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Post by skunkape on Mar 9, 2016 17:29:51 GMT
It's a cool idea, but yeah, it's very expensive! I won't be joining in.
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Post by jennifer on Mar 29, 2016 16:49:33 GMT
dang they got up to 1.4 million -- 1 day left to spend a grand on plastic
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Post by Sleepy Hollow Mike on Apr 5, 2016 7:57:00 GMT
I notice from your game photos that you have quite a large group playing. Wouldn't the Dwarven Forge (the pre-painted stuff even) be affordable enough for you if you all divided the costs evenly? It'd save you so much time printing and painting. I know how busy you are with your family, arcade machines, pinball machines, battling floods, work etc.. And it'd free up your time to get back to Frostgrave crafting! So I can get more ideas from you If you'd like, I'll send you the sample set of Dwarven Forge I got (3 pieces) so your group can check out the pieces, feel the weight of them, observe the factory paint job etc. Yes I have a large group but only a few after willing to spend anything. I have hands down spent more than the rest of the group combined on our games. At one point we offered extra XP for any player that bought their own mini for their character....other than the other DM, nobody bothered. If they can't spend money for $3-5 mini for their characters, I don't see them chipping in for Dwarven Forge. I have always taken the approach that my play money is my play money. If I make $1500 selling a couple arcade machines then I have $1500 to spend towards a new Pinball, more arcade stuff, D&D minis, or a surprise vacation for us. I do enough with arcade stuff in the year that I don't usually mind putting money into my hobbies. The more I think of it, I probably wont get into the Castle kickstarter. Like sgtslag says, it really is limited use. I would have loved to get into their City kickstarter because I think that stuff is awesome and highly useable, but the problem is that it just costs so much. To layout a small section of a city or town will run you thousands. They aren't worth that much to me. I may pickup some Dwarven Forge tiles soon but if I do they will be specialized tiles. Something I can't print or can't print well. That is sort of how I think about my play money. I craft for my group and I would not say no to anyone offering a few dollars to defray costs but in the end it's my stuff and since everyone plays here it works. I am still on the fence about those fancy new fangled printers but having been sent a few samples from Curufin I have to say ....maybe by Christmas?
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Post by Meph on Apr 5, 2016 9:42:34 GMT
I love my printer. I haven't posted many pics lately but I have been plugging away making stuff. Less tiles lately and more set pieces (tables, chairs, altars, fences, etc). You will definitely find a use for one if you get one.
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Post by Sleepy Hollow Mike on Apr 5, 2016 10:39:20 GMT
I love my printer. I haven't posted many pics lately but I have been plugging away making stuff. Less tiles lately and more set pieces (tables, chairs, altars, fences, etc). You will definitely find a use for one if you get one. To me anyway that is the real gift. Some would say don't sweat the small stuff but it is in the small stuff we crafters always sweat. However in the end I think we will become a group with very similar stuff.
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