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Post by jennifer on Feb 10, 2016 22:17:45 GMT
Made a 2.5" x 2.5" dungeon tile Wyloch stile but using cork for the tiles. I cut the four cork tiles at 1 3/16" x 1 3/16". Adhered to the criss-crossed double corrugated cardboard (1/4" thick combined) with Avery Permanent Glue Stick. Added the 60 lb cardstock(black) banding around the sides of the cardboard. Need to paint. I like how my 30mm bases fit in the tiles nicely -- htey overhang on the tile to the right. I am new to minis but almsot every reaper I've gotten fits better on 30mm rather than 25mm. Others experience this? Maybe it because the bases I use have a black border around edge? Maybe I need different bases. Anyways I really like the Wyloch tiles and might just go with them, and model some tiles sketchup that will be the correct Wylock dimensions.
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Post by jennifer on Feb 10, 2016 23:10:06 GMT
Forgot to mention that I also rough up any stock/sharp cork edges with fingernail before gluing down.
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Post by jennifer on Feb 11, 2016 0:49:12 GMT
Okay, I added the Wyloch 1/4" wall by just laying two layers of tiny cork bricks on top of the cork tiles, each with hot glue (didn't take too long.. not much longer than cutting chipboard, foamboard and etching & distressing foam). I like the way the wall looks fine. Matches the stone tiles. Ideally I'd cut two of the cork tiles 1/4" shorter on wide side to make room for the wall to run all the way down to the base (cardboard that is). But this way looks good too (above) I think. And would be a tad stronger due to 33% less torque. Doing it this way allows you to use the same 2.5" x 2.5" (Light) cardboard tiles for all the tiles instead of having to cut those to different sizes. But maybe some might think the walls look better running all the way down to the table?
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Post by Wyloch on Feb 11, 2016 3:03:25 GMT
Really like those stacked stone walls. And you're right, also solves the problem of dealing with different size foundations and/or squares.
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Post by jennifer on Feb 11, 2016 4:33:04 GMT
oh btw those walls are 1/16th of an inch taller than the standard 3/4" wall. due to the thickness of 2 layers of cork.
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Post by runningwolf on Feb 11, 2016 4:51:24 GMT
found the sleeves from the coffee cups at work have a neat stone texture, have a bunch of half finished (paint wise) ones I need to finish after work and show you guys.
Half the fun of all the crafty goodness is experimenting and showing/seeing what's been tried.
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Post by jennifer on Feb 11, 2016 23:17:00 GMT
Doing my first ever 3D modeling for printing purposes. Designing and printing a simple 2.5" x 2.5" x 1/4" Wyloch tile base. I'll then glue the cork to it and paint -- simple as that.. no messing with cutting the cardboard and banding it. I designed the tile in about 10 seconds in skecthup. I started by just drying a 2.5" x 2.5" rectangle (with the rectangle tool) then pulling it out 1/4" (with the push/pull tool). I then exported it as an STL file using a downloadable extension to Google Sketchup (both Sketchup and the extension are totally free). It's almost done printing now. I'll share photos of it after printing and after the cork tiles are applied. Sketchup screenshot: Once I learn how to add textures to planes I'll be designing the stone tiles in 3D and give printing them out a go, versus using cork. But the cork is so easy to cut with paper cutter and looks wonderful so I might just stick with the cork. (on printed bases).
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Post by jennifer on Feb 11, 2016 23:27:31 GMT
Okay it printed fine except for my Makerbot Software. It is consistently printing things at 94% scale instead of 100%. I export the STL file as X3G in Makerbot Desktop and it is doing this to STL files I download or create.. 94% of the intended size. As you can see this poses a problem for tile creation for me.
It used 11 grams of plastic (15 grams including the removable/disposable/recycleable raft it prints first). This means each tile costs about 25 cents to print ... a little over 30 cents a piece with raft. 10% infill, standard (not hi-res) print.
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Post by jennifer on Feb 12, 2016 2:14:48 GMT
Okay I finished successfully printing a 2.5x2.5x1/4 inch Wyloch tile base. I glued the cork tiles onto it with 3M spray adhesive. Was very quick work. Print, cut some cork with paper cutter, clip corners, scratch edges with fingernail, glue -- done. The base with 4 cork tiles on it, painted, weighs 19 grams vs. the 11 grams of the cardboard & cork version; this a nice bonus for stability on the table. It also looks nicer than the version with paper sidebanding -- nice sharp clean edges and corners. Sits perfectly level and zero no warpage. calipers say it's close enough for government work! side by side comparison of this printed base vs paper banded cardboard version Here is the 3D printed / cork Hybrid Wyloch Tile, painted : Next is to sculpt texture on stones/bricks in Sketchup to fashion a nice printable brick wall on a Wyloch Tile Base. I have a great feeling of accomplishment already because even though it's a basic 3d square shape, I made it and actually got it to print I can only improve from there right? Much to learn lol.
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Post by jennifer on Feb 12, 2016 2:23:38 GMT
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Post by jennifer on Feb 12, 2016 4:25:56 GMT
Working on a cobblestone wall in Sketchup, for a Wyloch wall tile. Anyone know easiest way for me to round the edges of the cobble stone so they aren't 90 degrees and sharp? What I've done so far is pretty easy.. took my base from before and drew a 1/8" thick wall and pushed it up 1/2" (for overall 3/4" wall height).. Then I drew a random shape with freeform draw tool on that wall plane and then push/pulled it out 1/16th of an inch (i.e. flush with the outer edge of the base tile). I'll have to cobblestone the entire other side of the wall as well and push it out 1/16th on that side too.
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Post by Wyloch on Feb 12, 2016 13:30:55 GMT
Not familiar with SketchUp...does it have a Chamfering function?
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Post by curufin on Feb 12, 2016 13:48:19 GMT
Chamfer on youtube. It also looks like there are over a thousand Setchup pugins out there. One was called Roundcorner.
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Post by skunkape on Feb 12, 2016 14:17:43 GMT
Great pictures of the completed printed pieces Jennifer! Thanks for posting and also sharing your model on thinkiverse!
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Post by jennifer on Feb 12, 2016 15:48:29 GMT
Found this awesome youtube video for making a brick wall in blender. Very easy to sculpt one.. was blown away.
Looks like I'll be using blender for stuff.. along with scluptris.
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Post by michka on Feb 12, 2016 17:11:27 GMT
The tiles look amazing. This whole process is interesting as hell. One suggestion for the printed under-tile piece. You could make the underside hollow by drawing a smaller square on the underside and push/push-ing it in. I have zero personal experience with 3D modeling, but my buddy Mike hollows out most of the models he makes for Shapeways. It reduces cost and weight. Just make sure the walls aren't too thin. Just an idea.
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Post by jennifer on Feb 12, 2016 17:57:32 GMT
The tiles look amazing. This whole process is interesting as hell. One suggestion for the printed under-tile piece. You could make the underside hollow by drawing a smaller square on the underside and push/push-ing it in. I have zero personal experience with 3D modeling, but my buddy Mike hollows out most of the models he makes for Shapeways. It reduces cost and weight. Just make sure the walls aren't too thin. Just an idea. Thanks, that's a great idea! Then I'd fill it with construction sand and white glue for some nice weight! then cover all that with rubbery craft foam .. it'd be impossible to move !
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Post by jennifer on Feb 12, 2016 17:58:14 GMT
Okay after watching that video in the post above, and about 1 hour messing around in Blender I produced the following. I never used blender before and never sculpted anything before in 3D.. just watched that video It's nice because blender is relatively easy to use/learn. Also it's absolutely FREE yay! Looks like I'll be doing a bunch of terrain crafting in 3D. Of course I'll share the files on thingiverse for free if anyone likes any of it. I'll redraw the above by rounding the tile corners first before any sculpting. Also I have to figure out how to change the planes to sculpt the sides of the individual four tiles, instead of the tops.
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Post by margaret on Feb 12, 2016 19:08:56 GMT
Jennifer, I tried your Thingiverse link and it took me to a 404 page - did you take down your model?
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Post by sgtslag on Feb 12, 2016 19:44:38 GMT
jennifer , that floor tile is superb! You do not need to round anything off, IMO. I was planning to type at you to just keep using the cork, as every tile would be unique, but it would be easier, and possibly even faster, to just print identical floor tiles. It is amazing to see folks picking this stuff up, and essentially putting DF out of business... Wow! Neat stuff. Keep sharing -- please! Cheers!
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