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Post by tauster on Oct 31, 2014 19:48:11 GMT
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Post by WackyAnne on Oct 31, 2014 20:11:10 GMT
Cast doll heads and action figures in (coloured) plaster? That seems to get you a good part of the way - and is of course very breakable
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Post by Erasmas on Oct 31, 2014 20:11:33 GMT
You could look for large toys, or ceramic/resin statues made for putting into gardens and whatnot. Saints and other religious standing figures could also work. Just be gentle with the hammer.
I took apart a fish aquarium "statue" for a monster I'm working on for a future game, and it has worked pretty well so ffar.
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Post by rane on Oct 31, 2014 22:28:50 GMT
i would hit up dollar stores and the like for larger 12" action figure toys and cut some heads off and turn them into statues
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Post by Brainbot on Oct 31, 2014 23:03:31 GMT
As Erasmas said, aquarium decorations would be a good starting point.Also a lot of people use cake decorations (columns).
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Post by grandinquisitorkris on Nov 1, 2014 1:10:11 GMT
try flea markets and thrift stores
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Post by onethatwas on Nov 1, 2014 14:57:28 GMT
This whole concept is rooted in Ancient Greece/Helenic architecture, which was proliferated by Alexander thr Great. He spread grecean culture all over the map, and statuary was a big thing in his time (and for centuries after).
Lucky for us crafters, the builders and sculpters of Ancient Greece really made their mark on culture, and haven't really been improved upon in any gargantuanly significant way. Comic Book action figures (even artistry) follow alot of artistic styles implemented by the ancient greek sculptors (specifically the "Heroic Stature" of standing an extra head taller than is realistic).
That being said, action figures are probably your best bet. Thrift Store finds, however, could also be valuable, though you will end up with alot of saints, which tend to all look very similar IMO.
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Post by DnDPaladin on Nov 1, 2014 21:52:09 GMT
Ditch action figures... Dolls, nuff said !
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Post by onethatwas on Nov 2, 2014 6:21:57 GMT
Dolls could work, but the problem is mostly in the design of the doll...many/most dolls have an inaccurate image for something ancient/heroic. Ken and Barbie don't usually inspire alot of LoTR goodness.
Granted, neither does Spiderman, but with action figures you are more likely to find some gold.
But it does boil down to budget, availability, your willingness to make stylistic/artistic changes, and overall aesthetic desire.
And the Gods know that Barbies are ridiculously high in quantity. He-Man figures...not so much.
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Post by tauster on Nov 2, 2014 8:54:41 GMT
Dolls could work, but the problem is mostly in the design of the doll...many/most dolls have an inaccurate image for something ancient/heroic. Ken and Barbie don't usually inspire alot of LoTR goodness. Granted, neither does Spiderman, but with action figures you are more likely to find some gold. But it does boil down to budget, availability, your willingness to make stylistic/artistic changes, and overall aesthetic desire. And the Gods know that Barbies are ridiculously high in quantity. He-Man figures...not so much. Dolls are good, but for other statuary than I have in mind. I want to go for the classic heroic stuff, so most dolls are probably not appropriate. However you can do great stuff with barbies. Here's something from our old forum: a statue of blipdoolpoolp, goddess of the kuo toa - made out of a modified barbie. Awesomeness!
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Post by onethatwas on Nov 2, 2014 16:14:15 GMT
Yes, I remember that craft, and it does show what can be accomplished with some ingenuity. I almost went looking for a crawfish carcass just so I could replicate the results (I decided against it in the end because While I really like Kuotoa as badguys, I didn't want to be popping benedryl for my shell fish allergies while crafting...)
But I agree that for this concept a more heroic model is needed.
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Post by Erasmas on Nov 2, 2014 18:08:26 GMT
I can't actually see those pictures, as they aren't viewable unless you sign in.
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Post by tauster on Nov 2, 2014 18:34:53 GMT
I just got an auction with two boxes of old figures. Shipping included, that's 12 EUR hopefully well-spent on 14 humans, plus a few animals and some asian architecture. i.imgur.com/ccejCnf.jpg
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Post by DnDPaladin on Nov 2, 2014 18:41:05 GMT
Onethatwas: i'm not talking about barbies ! barbies are still action figures if you ask me. i'm talking about real dolls ! i can easily see this being carved into rocks... www.desibucket.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Sad-Doll.jpgdolls have much more details then the more tiny version of them. the tinyer you go the less definition you have. and if you want to make faces, you have to take things with lots of details or add yourself the details. Doll have the right sizes, they have much more details then barbie dolls and can even easily be transformed into colossal statues as is. well the skin anyway, the clothing would be very bad to render grey.
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Post by gnomezrule on Nov 3, 2014 2:01:43 GMT
I just used Christmas figures.
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Post by kris on Nov 3, 2014 10:57:28 GMT
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Post by tauster on Nov 3, 2014 18:33:27 GMT
thanks all for the advices! carl sagan as a broken statue - priceless! I probably won't go the 3D printing route, but with all the statues soon arriving, I have more than enough material for a first test run. I probably won't mass-produce them, so if the results are satisfying, I don't even have to do moulds. I still might try myself at mould-making, just to learn it, So I'm looking forward to your tutorials (thanks in advance for the effort!)
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Post by tauster on Nov 8, 2014 9:25:33 GMT
@rouseau, this looks gorgeos! When I first saw your filigrane base, I immediately thought lace doily! I think for a large terrain piece, I could simple glue one over a flat piece of cardstock and paint it up as stucco. Or cut it into pieces and make shattered stucco ornament... The only thing that keeps me from going on an immediate lace doily hunting spree is that many of them are handcrafted, with a lot of love going into them - so I feel like I'd be misusing them when I glue them down and paint them up. Or is this just art transformation? [after 10 minutes of ebay-hunting online research, I found that many of these are factory-made. So no fear of committing crafting blasphemy. There are tons of these for sale, and cheap enough to be considered fair game for the crafting budget. *happy grin*
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Post by tauster on Nov 8, 2014 10:43:26 GMT
I'm personally going for ebay. You get tons of these things in household clearance sales there, at least in Germany, where this stuff is sort of traditional craft and was an integral part of the household effects in my grandparent's generation. I don't know anybody in my age (mid-thirties) who would use them, so many people who have to dissolve their grandparents household just want to get rid of these piles of laces. If you're patiently looking and don't need themright now, you're bound to get a dozen of them, all different, for next to nothing. ...or at least that's my personal theory.
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Post by kris on Nov 8, 2014 14:51:00 GMT
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