Post by justicechest on Oct 10, 2014 1:03:21 GMT
Evenin' everyone,
Some folks mentioned a while back the idea of a kind of tutorial for the over-the-wall door lip mod I use for my tile set. I said I would put this up a loooooong time ago. Then I didn't because of... um, excuses? Long story short, I didn't forget, I'm just a procrastinator with an old computer and a dislike for photobucket heh'm finally doin' it. I should apologize for the length too - this got to be bigger than I planned...
The idea is that I don't put any openings in the walls of rooms, and construct doors that fit over 2 wall widths, so that I can put them anywhere along any room or hall. It makes for a bit more freedom on how to place your rooms, halls, etc. They've proven pretty versatile and user friendly in my friend's module game, where the rooms have to match the module map exactly or things just get messy fast. It looks like so:
The wall part of the mod's easy; you just don't put openings heh... The first parts of the door design are based on a combination of thedmg's simple wooden door tutorial and DMScotty's hinged door tutorial. Those 2 vids explain the main process much better so I recommend those for the main techniques as shown by the masters, over anything I put down here. And I think most folks here are probably more experienced at this than I am ,and this may be bit old hat for them. Hopefully someone finds this one helpful
I was going to make another simple door for my set, but I already had 4 of them and I didn't see need for more. Looking at some peoples' collections now, I can kind of imagine (and understand them seeing that 4 and thinking, "aww that's cute." But a guy's gotta start somewhere heh.
Anywho, I did need a big double door though, so I changed it up a bit. Enough rambling; on to the pics!
Supplies; same stuff as in the original vids by thedmg and DMScotty
Glue 4 popsicle sticks together, then glue square toothpick beams at the bottom, at 5cm, and at about 3cm.
Mark off your arc (I started making the arc for a single door and changed my mind)
Cut
The reinforced border is made with a couple of the squared tooth picks and craft foam strip of the same width. More craft foam for the door fitting
Door knobs; I try to carefully put one regular bubble of hot glue onto the fitting, sink the ring in a bit while the glue's still hot, and when that cools I put another small bubble on top. I find if I do it carefully and stick it in the freezer right away, it comes out looking like 2 discrete parts instead of a blob of glue (like most of my first doors)
I bevel the ends of the beams on the side that will be hinged to give a better range when opening the door.
Attach your round toothpick hinge. You want to leave a good amount of length on both ends so you have enough to work with when installing into the doorframe.
Same process for the other side, using the first door as my template. In passing, I put the doorknobs on before starting the second door which was a mistake; it was just harder to trace the shape correctly. Here are the painted doors
The frame was tricky and this was my 4th or 5th try. The hinges go into the bottom/back layer of corrugation on each side (I generally make the doors swing inward; thinking about fitting them with bars. The cardboard is oriented so the corrugation channels run vertically to work as chambers for the hinge sticks
Some notes on making the frames, that I learned the hard way. I ran into an issue on my small doors because the frames were wider than 6.5cm, and I couldn't properly have doors spaced at 10ft intervals. On this one I made sure the width was just under 13cm (2 standard squares wide); the doorframe itself is about 1cm wide.
On to the actual mod I'm talking about (finally, amiright?
Looking at a foot for a regular sized door, I make the foot with a small strip of thinner cardboard to reduce the door's footprint. The door's base (2 ply) is about 1.7 or 1.8cm wide and 6.2-3cm long. The feet (1 ply) are only 0.5cm high, and 3.8-4cm long. I'll admit I wasn't always careful (a recurring theme...) about making the feet the same height but it's a good idea so that it stays balanced and level. They need to be relatively short horizontally too, to fit between the walls of a standard 6.5x6.5cm square (4cm is about the max you want). They're glued on the underside, and should hug the width of 2 walls put together without squeezing too much so you don't tear paint.
While I was at it, and having figured out the whole width limit thing, I ended up trimming down all of my old doors to fit properly. Then I had a bunch of strips of textured cardboard left from the leavings and, well, waste not, want not, right? It's not pretty but it doesn't hurt to have a spare around. I'm only putting it up because it's another example of the foot thing.
Going back to the double door, I put thin card stock around the edges inside and out
I scratched stone segments in with a pen (after measuring off with pencil - at this point I'm actually starting to check stuff before I commit which is progress for me heh)
This base is within 13cm to scale to a 20ft scaled area
Fitting the hinges in the doorframe. I marked it off with pencil then punched the holes with a metal pick
Fitted together. The hinge pieces at the bottom should be short, not long enough to go through the cardboard of the base. I had to add feet to the arch to make the height right, so it swung open smoothly. If I'd measured it right in the first place that probably would have been unnecessary haha
So yeah I painted the cast off arch. It's not pretty but hey
Frame and base now painted. I did it this way to avoid having to make corrections when I painted stone colors onto the door by accident, or vice versa.
Glued it all together, and then repainted the small parts where the glue was visible
And it's done yo!
Some folks mentioned a while back the idea of a kind of tutorial for the over-the-wall door lip mod I use for my tile set. I said I would put this up a loooooong time ago. Then I didn't because of... um, excuses? Long story short, I didn't forget, I'm just a procrastinator with an old computer and a dislike for photobucket heh'm finally doin' it. I should apologize for the length too - this got to be bigger than I planned...
The idea is that I don't put any openings in the walls of rooms, and construct doors that fit over 2 wall widths, so that I can put them anywhere along any room or hall. It makes for a bit more freedom on how to place your rooms, halls, etc. They've proven pretty versatile and user friendly in my friend's module game, where the rooms have to match the module map exactly or things just get messy fast. It looks like so:
The wall part of the mod's easy; you just don't put openings heh... The first parts of the door design are based on a combination of thedmg's simple wooden door tutorial and DMScotty's hinged door tutorial. Those 2 vids explain the main process much better so I recommend those for the main techniques as shown by the masters, over anything I put down here. And I think most folks here are probably more experienced at this than I am ,and this may be bit old hat for them. Hopefully someone finds this one helpful
I was going to make another simple door for my set, but I already had 4 of them and I didn't see need for more. Looking at some peoples' collections now, I can kind of imagine (and understand them seeing that 4 and thinking, "aww that's cute." But a guy's gotta start somewhere heh.
Anywho, I did need a big double door though, so I changed it up a bit. Enough rambling; on to the pics!
Supplies; same stuff as in the original vids by thedmg and DMScotty
Glue 4 popsicle sticks together, then glue square toothpick beams at the bottom, at 5cm, and at about 3cm.
Mark off your arc (I started making the arc for a single door and changed my mind)
Cut
The reinforced border is made with a couple of the squared tooth picks and craft foam strip of the same width. More craft foam for the door fitting
Door knobs; I try to carefully put one regular bubble of hot glue onto the fitting, sink the ring in a bit while the glue's still hot, and when that cools I put another small bubble on top. I find if I do it carefully and stick it in the freezer right away, it comes out looking like 2 discrete parts instead of a blob of glue (like most of my first doors)
I bevel the ends of the beams on the side that will be hinged to give a better range when opening the door.
Attach your round toothpick hinge. You want to leave a good amount of length on both ends so you have enough to work with when installing into the doorframe.
Same process for the other side, using the first door as my template. In passing, I put the doorknobs on before starting the second door which was a mistake; it was just harder to trace the shape correctly. Here are the painted doors
The frame was tricky and this was my 4th or 5th try. The hinges go into the bottom/back layer of corrugation on each side (I generally make the doors swing inward; thinking about fitting them with bars. The cardboard is oriented so the corrugation channels run vertically to work as chambers for the hinge sticks
Some notes on making the frames, that I learned the hard way. I ran into an issue on my small doors because the frames were wider than 6.5cm, and I couldn't properly have doors spaced at 10ft intervals. On this one I made sure the width was just under 13cm (2 standard squares wide); the doorframe itself is about 1cm wide.
On to the actual mod I'm talking about (finally, amiright?
Looking at a foot for a regular sized door, I make the foot with a small strip of thinner cardboard to reduce the door's footprint. The door's base (2 ply) is about 1.7 or 1.8cm wide and 6.2-3cm long. The feet (1 ply) are only 0.5cm high, and 3.8-4cm long. I'll admit I wasn't always careful (a recurring theme...) about making the feet the same height but it's a good idea so that it stays balanced and level. They need to be relatively short horizontally too, to fit between the walls of a standard 6.5x6.5cm square (4cm is about the max you want). They're glued on the underside, and should hug the width of 2 walls put together without squeezing too much so you don't tear paint.
While I was at it, and having figured out the whole width limit thing, I ended up trimming down all of my old doors to fit properly. Then I had a bunch of strips of textured cardboard left from the leavings and, well, waste not, want not, right? It's not pretty but it doesn't hurt to have a spare around. I'm only putting it up because it's another example of the foot thing.
Going back to the double door, I put thin card stock around the edges inside and out
I scratched stone segments in with a pen (after measuring off with pencil - at this point I'm actually starting to check stuff before I commit which is progress for me heh)
This base is within 13cm to scale to a 20ft scaled area
Fitting the hinges in the doorframe. I marked it off with pencil then punched the holes with a metal pick
Fitted together. The hinge pieces at the bottom should be short, not long enough to go through the cardboard of the base. I had to add feet to the arch to make the height right, so it swung open smoothly. If I'd measured it right in the first place that probably would have been unnecessary haha
So yeah I painted the cast off arch. It's not pretty but hey
Frame and base now painted. I did it this way to avoid having to make corrections when I painted stone colors onto the door by accident, or vice versa.
Glued it all together, and then repainted the small parts where the glue was visible
And it's done yo!