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Post by lordtarrant on Dec 20, 2013 3:03:19 GMT
Hey guys, I live in the midwest (Iowa) and it's cold (since it's winter) which is not conductive to spray painting so I was wondering if any of you had any suggestions for laying a base coat for tiles? I can't spray paint inside my home (I have little ones and it's just dangerous anyway) but I'm wanting to make tiles for my current game "Way of the Wicked."
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Post by bloodchoke on Dec 20, 2013 3:16:06 GMT
Just use acrylics and a brush. I tend to do this with a lot of my tiles anyway, since I use foam a lot. More work, but better than waiting for warmer weather.
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Post by adamantinedragon on Dec 20, 2013 6:29:30 GMT
I live in Colorado, which can get pretty cold too. I mostly spray paint in my garage right now. That means laying down a lot of newspaper. I am considering building a spray paint nook that I can use inside, but since I just got an airbrush for my birthday, I'm not sure I need to anymore.
The 2.5D terrain I just built and painted was done in a garage that probably averaged about 30-40 degrees. It took a little longer for the paint to dry, but I painted, then went to bed, then to work, and by the time I got back home from work the next day, it was dry enough to shade and highlight.
And sometimes I do as bloodchoke suggested and just brush on acrylic as a base coat.
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Post by kokigami on Dec 20, 2013 6:32:08 GMT
you could try using a spray bottle and very thin pant.
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Post by kokigami on Dec 20, 2013 8:34:15 GMT
Considering your situation, I am gonna seriously suggest printng tiles. Now, I know it isn't as good a crafting fix, but there is a lot you can do to tiles to make em better. You can add stuff with some glue, or draw stuff on with colored markers. Then spend some time on set dressing. Cause, details like that can make up for weaker tiles. Things like torches and shelves etc. Paper craft has some strong potential, and you can cut paper while watching TV or such..
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2013 9:28:35 GMT
Adding flocking and pebbles (or broken up plaster) is good with paper tiles. If you really want to paint, you could try an air brush, the cheapest form of which, is an aerosol powered spray unit with paint flask.. be warned though, acrylic paints can be just as hazardous to your health as any other paints, when sprayed in a fine mist.
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Post by dmjonny on Dec 20, 2013 11:22:58 GMT
Here in the uk its about 2 degrees above freezing. I stick all mine in the garage. And spray away. You can also use the hair dryer technique. I use it all the time. Tiles and minis have never dried so quick!! Always good for this type of weather ;-))
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Post by skunkape on Dec 20, 2013 14:58:44 GMT
I would suggest making a spray booth, just take some cardboard and looking at pictures from a commercial version, cut away. If you don't want to put a fan in it, that's fine, but I would only use it in the garage, that is if you have one! Then when you're spray painting, you won't have to worry about over spray as it will all be in the booth. Below are some pictures of ones I found with the following search, "hobby spray booth". Below shows a fan in the back... One made with plywood... Forgot to also mention, you could take some color samples down to your local hardware store and get them to custom mix some house paint for you. I did it for two Citadel paint colors and they came out very nicely. Then you can use that, just be careful not to get the paint too thin as it might warp the cardboard.
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Post by thorswulf on Dec 20, 2013 15:33:41 GMT
Another option is buying a spray gun that uses canned air like Propel. It is a little expensive, but the plus side is that you can use thinned down acrylic paint.
If this is not an option, and you are worried about tiles warping because of too much moisture from the paint, paint the back side as well. Any internal pieces of cardboard glued at 90 degrees to a wall will also help the tiles to lay flatter.
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Post by earlteagrey on Dec 20, 2013 20:11:46 GMT
I have never used spray paint on my tiles for a few reasons: •I'm next door in Minnesota and the weather is not favorable for much of the year •It's more expensive than acrylic •It can be a sticky-mess •The chemicals can be harmful to yourself and the environment (although I sometimes ironically imagine an acrylic paint factory with billowing smoke stacks haha)
I use the sponge technique Scotty uses in this video: I would argue that this technique dries even faster than spray paint also. Biggest downside I see I the the texture "shell" and feel the the texture paint gives.
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Post by lordtarrant on Dec 21, 2013 2:16:41 GMT
Thanks for your suggestions guys, I like the painting booth idea and I do have a garage to paint in. I was just worried that the cold would make the spray paint dry tacky.
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Post by grym247 on Jan 2, 2014 14:22:46 GMT
I dont use any spray cans, that would involve going outside and that not fun, anyway i use craft Paint Acrylics , First coat is Lightish almosty dry brush, and then i give a second coat, just so i dont soak the piece.
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Post by miltonmurphy on Jan 2, 2014 17:11:31 GMT
I dont use any spray cans, that would involve going outside and that not fun, anyway i use craft Paint Acrylics , First coat is Lightish almosty dry brush, and then i give a second coat, just so i dont soak the piece. I do find spray painting to be easier, but I've been doing a lot of painting on the base coat lately because it's been a cold, wet winter here. grym247's got good advice there about being light handed if you brush the base coat on.
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Post by robagd on Jan 2, 2014 18:47:33 GMT
We have been in the 30-40's here (f) and I just make sure the paint itself is warm, tiles are warm got out to the balcony and spray away, give it a few minutes and bring it in.
No real issues of fumes, and drys fine. Some times I just leave it out for a few hours, again no issues so far for base coats.
-R
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Post by miltonmurphy on Jan 2, 2014 18:59:07 GMT
We have been in the 30-40's here (f) and I just make sure the paint itself is warm, tiles are warm got out to the balcony and spray away, give it a few minutes and bring it in. No real issues of fumes, and drys fine. Some times I just leave it out for a few hours, again no issues so far for base coats. -R Right on robagd. I do spray paint in the cold with no issues (the annoyance factor is more that I don't *like* cold which is why I live in the South. ) The bigger annoyance is the wet. I don't have a enclosed area away from the house (my wife is very sensitive to paint fumes) so if it's raining then I'm brushing. Cheers, MM
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Post by ReliantLion on Feb 17, 2014 3:00:14 GMT
Are there any videos that go into detail regarding base painting using acrylics? I have the same issue as lordtarrant (cold, kids, no garage). I do have time, though.
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Post by earlteagrey on Feb 17, 2014 4:45:59 GMT
Are there any videos that go into detail regarding base painting using acrylics? I have the same issue as lordtarrant (cold, kids, no garage). I do have time, though.
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Post by ReliantLion on Feb 17, 2014 13:47:30 GMT
Maybe I didn't use the right terminology. I mean how do you make it black before the details using just acrylic. Or do you just sponge it on? Specifically, should I dry brush or use water (how much water, etc.)? The only painting I've ever done was in the Navy, and let's just say that it's not considered a skill based task.
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Post by earlteagrey on Feb 17, 2014 15:00:06 GMT
Maybe I didn't use the right terminology. I mean how do you make it black before the details using just acrylic. Or do you just sponge it on? Specifically, should I dry brush or use water (how much water, etc.)? The only painting I've ever done was in the Navy, and let's just say that it's not considered a skill based task. I've used acrylic black as a base paint exclusively. Don't water it down, just coat it's thick enough to cover all the cardboard. You just have to have a sharp eye to look for spots you've missed, do extra work to fill in the corrugation so it's not as noticeable, but it dries pretty fast. I'd say just as fast as spray paint but without the fumes.
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Post by runningwolf on Mar 8, 2014 14:02:44 GMT
I just posted something about this, wondering what other folks do.
I just pay the bills here, my cats own the place. So this might not work well if you have a bunch of other people living in your house.
I have an awning outside of my place. I will lay down an old plastic bag from the market and spray paint outside. I've been bringing it in and letting it dry in the bathroom with a fan running. Smaller bits I lay down junk mail on the tub's side, larger stuff I turn a 5 gallon bucket upside down in the tub and rest it on there. You still get a chemical smell, not half as bad as if you painted inside.
I still need to get my poop in a group to clear out my spare bedroom (looks like a storage locker) to be able to put my gaming and craft stuff in there.
If you have kids, parents, or a fussy S.O. (not sure of your living arrangements) the drying the stuff in the bathroom might not be a good thing.
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