Watched a terrain making video last night, where the person showed how to, "bring a 30-year-old terrain board up to modern standards..." The "old school" board was better than a lot of game tables I've played on, from 1993 to present! His concept of, "modern standards," was to make it more realistic looking.
I go for middle of the road, between super-basic felt roads and rivers, and realistic-looking (very relative term...) terrain. I take the same approach in painting my mini's: I go for the GEtGW standard (Good Enough to Game With, at arm's length). I average 10 minutes of brush time, per figure. I have painted multiple armies, not one; I freely use pre-painted mini's, sometimes I apply The Dip, or Magic Wash techniques to improve them; other times, I just base them. I am a Gamer, not a Simulationist (someone who strives for ultra-realism, ultra-detail, both in painting style, and in terrain making/usage).
Where do you see yourself on the scale, 1 being a pure Gamer, who cares little for realism, freely using blue felt for rivers, brown felt for roads, and green felt for grasslands, without any modification; to a 5, an absolute Simulationist, who strives for ultra-detailed mini's painting (near perfect eyes, on 15mm mini's!), with as realistic as possible terrain, or perhaps only using photo-images printed on a mat substrate? Cheers!
I went with #1 one, although I could have chosen #2 as well. I love looking at other people's detailed stuff and do the occasional special item. But I don't play enough to justify model-railroading levels of terrain.
Same here, margaret. Even though I am a tabletop wargamer, with 1,000+ mini's for waging war on my gaming table, I find model RR level of detail too tedious, unacceptable due to the fact that my stuff has to be (highly) modular. I use my terrain for multiple scales, when possible. I play wargames with 25mm - 28mm mini's, but I also game with 54mm Army Men (rules, dice, tape measures; no tennis balls, rubber bands no clumps of dirt, nor firecrackers... sorry).
For painting, I want to game with my toys before I die; actually, I want to play as many games with them, as humanly possible, before I die. That means I have to compromise, somewhere, somehow. Life is all about balancing desires, and outcomes. I am happy with my chosen balance points.
I have friends who are all over the scale, above. Some are an interesting mixture of detailing: some go for highly detailed mini's, using plain felt for roads and rivers; others are 5's, in both mini's and terrain. I'll game with anyone, no matter where they are on the scale. I'm a gamer, so ultra-stylistic painting, and detailing, is not required.
Back in the early days of 1980, when I began playing D&D, we used dice to represent PC's and monsters, for combat. Didn't have money for figures or paint, let alone terrain! DM Scotty appears to be around my age (mid-50's), so he had not created his techniques yet. Even if he had, I still would not have had money for supplies -- money was tight for us.
Thanks for replying. Happy gaming, whatever your preferences! Cheers!
I had a friend, years ago, who painted for Reaper, and other mini's makers. They paid him in cash, and product, then they used his work in advertising. He looked at my block painted, and Dip'ed mini's.
He told me, "You could paint professionally, if you wanted. You have the skills."
I laughed out loud. "I could, but I have too many mini's to paint before I die!"
That was around 20 years ago. I am still block painting, and Dip'ing my mini's. I have painted around 1,000 mini's, which is a testament to how little time I spend painting mini's, as I have a busy life, which carries me away from mini's and gaming. COVID has not changed that much, as we still manage to fill our days.
I put paint on some mini's, last night, which I have not touched with paint, for 5-10 years. I've been painting a bit in the past two weeks. I've also nearly completed new projects (WizKids Catapults -- quick, easy, and motivatingly fun), which just hit my painting queue last week! I finished six Dwarven Ram Cavalry mini's the other night, which have been in the painting queue for around 25 years! I still have another 6-10 of them in the queue...
I chose my compromise level, and I've been having a blast ever since. I respect people's choices. It's a personal thing. Just have fun, and enjoy the experience. Cheers!
erho: I will once again rise above Lurker status if I ever get back to painting, Real life work transitions... Adulting
Jan 31, 2020 16:23:29 GMT
factoriatabletop: sgtslag...oh man! you are right about it...
Mar 3, 2020 10:13:15 GMT
Draklith: Hey everyone just a quick stop by to see if anyone is still here, hope everyone is doing ok
May 26, 2020 18:27:20 GMT
sgtslag: This forum seems to be slowing down. I hope everyone is still crafting, safely! I will be here until they turn off the power... Cheers!
May 27, 2020 13:46:43 GMT
factoriatabletop: maybe we should try to make a contest here, between us
Jun 2, 2020 8:40:08 GMT
factoriatabletop: no prizes, just proud....dont know, anyone else?
Jun 2, 2020 8:40:40 GMT
sgtslag: Still unpacking after moving in October... Too much stuff, crafting materials are mostly still in boxes. Weekends are busy with life, so little progress made. Getting the urge to push through, though, soon. I have several projects waiting...
Jun 2, 2020 20:14:39 GMT
erho: Yeah I'm down for a painting contect
Jun 8, 2020 14:28:59 GMT
sgtslag: Started working on making hills, which match my Tee-Time carpet I use for my "grass mat," on my gaming table, for big battles. Got two long chunks of open-cell foam, from a friend. Used my Proxxon Hot Wire Cutter to make terrain hills out of them.
Jul 26, 2020 20:12:40 GMT
sgtslag: Came up with around 80 hills. Covering them with the same carpet, from scraps. They will match the tabletop, perfectly. Contact Cement, is my friend. Will post on it, when I get the pictures uploaded. Some prototypes done, as proof-of-concept...
Jul 26, 2020 20:14:06 GMT
randywest: does anyone know more manufacturers for 1/72 fantasy minis besides Dark Alliance, Caesar and Elhiem?
Sept 14, 2020 14:16:19 GMT
sgtslag: 50 Hills completed, 24 left to cover the sides on. Hoping to finish this project within the week. Then I'll post a build description. For war gaming, but it can cross over to RPG sessions... They match the ground 'cloth', perfectly.
Sept 19, 2020 19:03:09 GMT
sgtslag: Sorry, randywest, the listed makers are the only ones I know.
Sept 19, 2020 19:03:34 GMT
sgtslag: Ran out of Hot Glue, with only five hills left to add a skirt to the sides of. Wal-Mart closes at 8:00 PM, thanks to COVID. GRRRrrr! Another 30 minutes of work, and I would have been done: ~77 hills, modular, perfectly matching my table's ground cloth!
Sept 23, 2020 2:50:39 GMT
sgtslag: Will post a write-up soon, or after next week's vacation. Cheers!
Sept 23, 2020 2:51:57 GMT
sgtslag: Hoping to acquire a Chop Saw within the next two weeks. Then I will cut up MDF into triangles, to form the skeleton of my d20 fantasy world globe... Posting will follow, with how-to guide. Cheers!
May 11, 2021 22:57:40 GMT
erho: I have a confession: I havnt painted a thing in months because I got a new guitar(#8!) but now that May "Megadeth month" is over I have a repaired airbrush and a early 90's Ral Partha Amethyst dragon on the table... pics to come soon!
Jun 11, 2021 17:49:58 GMT
margaret: too bad you can't post your music here =). Hadn't seen that dragon - looks like it came out when all my cash was going to raising kids. Looking forward to seeing your paint choices!
Jun 12, 2021 2:41:42 GMT