Looking forward to seeing how these various projects progress!
I would recommend applying the modeling clay to the bare plastic, sans paint, for better bonding. Two-part epoxies would be the best materials to use: either Green Stuff (used by professional sculptors to make master mini's with -- very sticky) or Durham's Water Putty (very inexpensive, sandable, takes paint, but not stains or dyes). If you apply clay, or a putty, to the painted plastic, it can only bond to the paint, and it may break away easily. Cheers!
Thanks for the advice.I will be doing terrible things to more Smurfs... but here is were I am so far using Crayola’s Model MagicClay... I agree clay first then paint... and I think base primer on next one will be spray paint, and the acrylic and probably a sealer over that. I will spray Good St. Smurfette here and do some extra gluing to get her as solid as possible then seal her up.
Anyway I was surprised how well she came out. Next Evil Smurfette
Here is where St. Smurfette is at now... I need to add gems, moss, maybe some cracking inked in... need to get a good sealer to spray on her. Then I need to decide on broken temple design elements for Gnomes. Mushrooms, animals and whimsical elements will be involved. I plan a Gnome Demoness too.
The Lord of Paladins is gradually looking better... I need to find gold, bronze and copper metal paints. The Yellow areas and spots will be painted over also more work on leather needed such as belt and straps. Of course I need to mount him and make the mount look nice. I am pretty sure he is shaping up nicely though, not bad for a heavily played 35 year old figurine... Grenadier’s 1985 10th Anniversary D&D figurine. Once I get him finished I will put a sealer on him too.
The Experiment on turning the Smurf Village into Gnome Homes... the first experiment is coming along, but not without difficulties. The homes can not just be painted on because of the plastic type just does not take paint well. So I am paper mecheing the first one, I have a lot of outside details to add to it. Once together it will not be able to be taken apart, so I think I will experiment with creating little round floor tiles for the first and second floors, with partial interior features... After I have this one worked out I will be making crazier ones.
The papier mache' really creates nice textures to work with. However, there are possible options for painting the plastic, directly, if you prefer the smoother textures: Krylon Fusion for Plastic spray paints, as well as Rustoleum's paint for plastics. Use a matte color appropriate to your needs, as a base color (matte paint has more tooth for additional paint to stick to; gloss paints are very microscopically smooth on the surface). Sanding the plastic, with 200-400 grit will roughen up the surface, possibly enhancing the adhesion of the paint. Seal with a matte clear coat, when done.
Some options to consider, are washes. My two favorite washes are The Dip (Minwax Polyshades Urethane Stain), Royal Walnut color, and Magic Wash (Pledge Floor Gloss, formerly known as Future Floor Polish, mixed with whatever color of acrylic paint, or alcohol ink colors desired). For either of these, I recommend painting with full-strength Pledge Floor Gloss, first: it will fill and seal, on a microscopic level, the rough surface of matte paints; when the wash is applied after this dries (30 minutes, minimum), the wash will only accumulate in the recesses, without overly darkening the (microscopically rough) flat areas. It works wonders on both miniatures, and terrain pieces, but it is not a miracle technique, and it may not appeal to you, so try some test pieces, to see if you like it.
I recommend using some plastic Army Men figures for testing purposes. Apply simple block painting to the bits that are different colors compared to the figure's plastic, like equipment, skin, hair, etc. Let that dry. Then paint on, with a throw-away school paint brush (30 for a $1, at Wal-Mart), either Minwax, or your own shade of Pledge + paint/ink. The Army Man figure will demonstrate just how effective these techniques are, with minimal effort. If you don't like the results, you are out little. Cheers!
Thank you for the advice Sgtslag. I will try it out on some cheap toy animals for kids parties I picked up to create cheap animal encounter figurines.
I think I will make a Mushroom and Crystal Temple ... thinking about the build elements... but I have a theme going.
Interestingly everyone I had a lot more issues getting the Magic Model clay to stick to unpainted Papa Smurf then I did on painted Smurfette. I will see how it drys but as a result I will need to do some filing on Papa Smurf to try and smooth out a few areas better. I also may need to fiddle with him in other ways with glue of some sort to insure adhesion of clay. I am also going to glue some things on his hat... probably tiny beads to create texture.
I need to create an axe for him, find some tiny gem stones... Papa Smurf is going to become the gnome god Garl... my take on him is more Middle Ages Whimsical Wizard with a big Axe. I need to decide on how I am painting him... with St. Smurfette I knew I wanted a granite stone look which I will add moss and gem stones to. However with Garl a metallic statue might be cool to do him as gold or a combo of gold and stone?
I like this! Papa Smurf as Garl Glitterrgold! He is very 1e Gnomish in appearance. I like it! I would recommend a higher quality of gold paint. Be aware that most high-end gold paints, will tarnish if not sealed soon after curing. Looking forward to seeing this progress to completion. Cheers!
The goal this weekend hunting trip is gold and other metallic paints spray and brush, sealer.. little gem stones (I am looking for the finger nail ones and the regular craft ones). I might have to order some stuff from the net if I can’t find them. It is absolutely bizarre in the stores... they are wiped out... it looks like the effect WWII rationing. It is so bizarre what is randomly unavailable at different stores.
Yes, people looking for stuff to keep themselves and their kids occupied at home, plus supply issues, have made getting some materials really random. I tried to order good-quality colored pencils from an art supply store for my grandkids, only to find that the pencils are back-ordered with no idea when they will be available again.
Even if it's available, you may find that there is a much longer wait for shipping than before.
I was able to hit another hobby shop today... everything but the size rhinestones I am looking for was found. I even found a toy raccoon... but it’s pretty realistic. I might keep looking for more whimsical animal buddies... though badgers probably are not on anyone’s cute list.
Anyhow... did more work to Garl Glittergold. Completed the sculpting for Baervan Wildwanderer and Flandal Steelskin today... used Painter Smurf for Baervan and Chief Smurf for Flandal. Tomorrow Brainy Smurf will begin his transformation to Segojan Earthcaller.
I really went crazy on Baervan... he now has a magical cap and shield I will need to stat out. 😂
Anyway here they are... curing awaiting first spray of paint.
I am particularly fond of Gnomes. I play a feisty Gnome Fighter, in a friend's 2e AD&D game. I keep thinking of building a life-size/pint-sized Gnome, all of 2-foot-nothing tall. I want to put pillow stuffing into a pantyhose, to form the head, ears, and hands. The body would be stuffed fabrics. Every time I visualize this in my head, I think of strapping it onto my son's 50-pound dog, as if she were his War Dog mount. I really need to do this. The group of players would split a gut, laughing hysterically! It would be sooo much fun... Cheers!
Found the adhesive rhinestones finally! How I now feel about looking for craft supplies...
The brave adventurers enter the marketplace, the villagers fearful of the pox have masked their faces and eye the adventurers with mistrust. Per the Captian of the Guard all the party is masked, though the hobbits keep fiddling with theirs. The Ranger half-elf male speaks ”We quest for the legendary Arts and Crafts!” and produces a list in Elvish. The two hobbits in the party begin excitingly pointing out all the oddities, but find nothing on the list. After spending sometime lost in the seemingly endless magical emporium, the human magic user and half elf ranger wonder what magic is a foot and what foul goblins or orcs have looted the aisles... finally it is decided the female magic user will approach one of the guardians of the magical store... “Storekeeper have thou these rare items?”.
“Nay fair lady, we have no such items perhaps thou should trek to yonder marketplace in the next village.”
Thus the quest continues and our brave adventurers head out into the wilderness to yonder village... the King’s Road is no longer safe in this area and local villagers are prone to fits of insanity over wearing or not wearing masks and how close to stand. Quickly the party retreats to their wagon and head to the next village and store hoping to avoid the hoardes, and random violent villagers.
... yep check out lines can get dicey if people get to close not to mention people yelling at people because wearing a mask offends them or not wearing a masks offends them in addition to all the other reasons they loose it normally around here...
Yes, some folks are starting to loose it in check out lines and the parking lots. Looking for some items has become a definite quest. I have gotten more done on the project... all the good guy gnome gods are ready for texture spay, plus two ladybugs and 1 raccoon. The second mushroom house is partially built.
I think I will be adding (besides moss, little rhinestones) painted streaks of metals and glitter glue to simulate crystals.
I will be making isometric floor tiles and items for the mushroom houses this way if players go into a building I can remove the building and place the round house floor plan out for game play. We will probably start the human town keep and dungeon elements tomorrow... besides the tiles already in process. Make more paper minis...
I think we have found 90% of the old figurines, and random figurines we have purchased over the years but never painted... and we did go to one of the game hobby shops today to hunt for figurines I know we didn’t have but wanted for our horde. So mass priming is in my future.
Just remember that the Nolzur figures, as well as Bones figures, do NOT require priming, before painting with acrylics. The bendy pre-painted figures do not require priming, either. I prefer to apply The Dip, to the pre-paints, to dress them up, just a bit, for my table. However, I am an "army painter," averaging 10 minutes of painting, per figure, including applying The Dip. I just make them look good enough, at arm's length. I also have painted roughly 800 mini's, so if you want painting advice, I have a marked skew in my techniques... Cheers!
Well I think I found the few missing minis with the exception of three...
I also found some of our missing commercially made doors some of which we never painted... or if pre colored or painted we had not really finished them. So I started fiddling with them. I need to score the bottoms of them all and glue them onto bases. The solid resin ones I will be needing to construct a back to each one... I think. I think I am ready to texture spray the gnome statue.
erho: Too many minis, not enough time... Am I right?
Oct 29, 2019 21:28:01 GMT
sgtslag: If we could just do away with this whole "work" thing, and supporting ourselves, financially, and otherwise... Life always seems to get in the way of gaming. AHHH!!!...
Nov 6, 2019 18:32:16 GMT
erho: I will once again rise above Lurker status if I ever get back to painting, Real life work transitions... Adulting
Jan 31, 2020 16:23:29 GMT
factoriatabletop: sgtslag...oh man! you are right about it...
Mar 3, 2020 10:13:15 GMT
Draklith: Hey everyone just a quick stop by to see if anyone is still here, hope everyone is doing ok
May 26, 2020 18:27:20 GMT
sgtslag: This forum seems to be slowing down. I hope everyone is still crafting, safely! I will be here until they turn off the power... Cheers!
May 27, 2020 13:46:43 GMT
factoriatabletop: maybe we should try to make a contest here, between us
Jun 2, 2020 8:40:08 GMT
factoriatabletop: no prizes, just proud....dont know, anyone else?
Jun 2, 2020 8:40:40 GMT
sgtslag: Still unpacking after moving in October... Too much stuff, crafting materials are mostly still in boxes. Weekends are busy with life, so little progress made. Getting the urge to push through, though, soon. I have several projects waiting...
Jun 2, 2020 20:14:39 GMT
erho: Yeah I'm down for a painting contect
Jun 8, 2020 14:28:59 GMT
sgtslag: Started working on making hills, which match my Tee-Time carpet I use for my "grass mat," on my gaming table, for big battles. Got two long chunks of open-cell foam, from a friend. Used my Proxxon Hot Wire Cutter to make terrain hills out of them.
Jul 26, 2020 20:12:40 GMT
sgtslag: Came up with around 80 hills. Covering them with the same carpet, from scraps. They will match the tabletop, perfectly. Contact Cement, is my friend. Will post on it, when I get the pictures uploaded. Some prototypes done, as proof-of-concept...
Jul 26, 2020 20:14:06 GMT