I have to disagree with guppy : Safari Ltd.'s Dragon toys are very affordable, and they come fully painted from the factory. Many of them are directly usable, without any painting, while others can easily be re-painted for use in D&D games (see my blog for examples: "Swamp Dragon", re-painted as an AD&D Copper Dragon; a "Golden Dragon", re-painted as an AD&D Bronze Dragon). I own several of their toys, which I use, unaltered, in my fantasy games, as they are close enough without modifications, to what I need, per the 1e/2e Monster Manuals.
Their toy dragon models, which I've used, have ranged from $14.99 - $20.99, and they come fully painted! Reaper, and their like, all come unpainted... For more money!
For even larger Dragon models, I would suggest searching Amazon.com's web site. They used to sell various Dragon decorations, in much larger sizes than I found elsewhere. They used to have a Black Dragon decoration, which was curled up, sleeping, and it was around 1.5-2 feet long! It was also a dead ringer for the 2e Black Dragon. Unfortunately, it was over $30, and just too big for my needs -- it is also no longer listed. Cheers!
Apologies. Missed the Schleich. I think I own some of their toy dragons, but I'd have to look carefully. Schleich produce some superb animal "toys", which I've pressed into service for my fantasy games. They do tend to be higher priced, compared to Safari Ltd.
I bought some Halloween rubbery Bats, to use as aerial cavalry, for my Caesar 1/72 scale Goblins. The rubbery toy bats worked, but they looked pretty much like cheap toys... I found a Schleich Fruit Bat, which was superb, from the factory -- no painting required, fantastic sculpting, size, and design -- made of firm plastic. I did a test fit, with one of my finished Goblins: success! Now I just need to mount the Schleich Bats, on the pin-based mounts used for the rubbery bats, and re-mount the Goblins onto them, as well. Another project I need to finish in 2018...
By the way, shop around. I picked up my bats at a toy store, in Germany, for around $7-$9 each. I paid roughly 1/3 of what Amazon is asking for them. For my bases, I used a 3" steel, straight, sewing pin, Hot Gluing the head to a square base, in a vertical position. I bent the pointed end of the pin, 90 degrees, so I could drive the pin point into the body of the bat. This allows me to rotate the bat, easily, on the pin, to put it into a banking turn, as desired. Great fun.
Goblins chucking burning Molotov Cocktails, while riding flying Giant Bats, is a sight to see on a battlefield! It's even worse if they're attacking your troops! But it is, ohhh, so much fun, if you are the player controlling the Goblins... Played a 2e BattleSystem (AD&D mass battles game) with the Goblin Giant Bat Aerial Cavalry. Was quite a site to see them clustered around an infantry unit of Humans. The carnage was not terrible, but it was quite fun, and memorable, even though they were the cheap rubbery bats. Really looking forward to playing with the excellent Schleich Fruit Bats, next time...
Again, I apologize, guppy , for my misreading of your post. Cheers!
Post by adamantinedragon on Jan 5, 2018 5:42:39 GMT
I used to see both Schleich and Safari dragons in craft stores in the States like Michaels, Hobby Lobby and JoAnnes. At Michaels and Hobby Lobby you can usually use a 40% off coupon on one to get it at almost half price. I purchased several that way.
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bleedscarlet, I don't know where you live, but here's a tip if you are in the USA. Michael's craft stores sell Safari dragons, although the models available vary by store. You can download their free app and get a 40% or 50% off coupon every week. Using the coupon will reduce the price of a $15 dragon to $9 or $7.50, a much more affordable price. The dragons are EXTREMELY sturdy. A lot of the factory paint jobs are lovely. And they are easily re-painted if you really like a particular model but want it to be gold. I don't think I have ever seen these at Joanns, which has a similar weekly coupon. You might find them at Hobby Lobby, which also has a weekly coupon.
They are pretty big, which I think dragons should be. But if you need a specific size, they might not be what you are looking for.
Safari does also sell smaller dragons only as a set in a tube. And also the cutest mini dragons you ever saw - also as a set.
Man you guys are my heroes. Thank you so much!!! I was looking for dragon toys but was pretty unsatisfied with the result. I think I could repaint some of these Safari dragons and get some serious mileage out of it.
There's a golden dragon that's going to save the players because they've all been secretly serving her spreading good around the world without realizing it and I want it to be a suitably epic moment when after this long drawn out battle where it looks like they're about to TPK, this gigantic dragon miniature gets plopped down on the board for an epic cinematic.
My wife used to work for the local Michaels, and we still have some friends at the checkout counters there....I'm going to make use of some friendly employee discounts soon
This guy has perfected the art of paper mache, or at least he is as near one can possibly get to a perfect DIY dragon head trophy. I have one of his books and started collecting the materials necessary last year. Already got those wire hangers, don't throw out any old t-shirts anymore, and the newspaper pile grows at a steady rate. Some day...
I dream of making a 6-foot wingspan, AD&D Black Dragon, complete, in flight, using Dan's techniques... He makes it look easy. He sells his dragon head trophies for around $2k, if I remember right. Amazing work! Wish I had a spare $2k x 5! I'd keep Dan very busy... Cheers!
Nice! They paint up easily. The sculpts are quite good, even when the factory paint jobs aren't. The "Swamp Dragon" is a terrible paint job, IMO, but the sculpting is excellent! I think mine makes a superb AD&D Copper Dragon. These are the best value for our gaming money, I believe. The sculpts may be limited, but the value for our money, is fantastic.
I did a posting somewhere, on some forum, and I posted the Schleich(?) Forest (AD&D Green) Dragon figure in a 3D cavern setup with a bunch of Giant Skeletons, with a comic book text balloon, "Gonna have to do this the old fashioned way...") -- he could not 'kill' them with his breath weapon, as they had no lungs! Still one of my favorite pictures I've posted. The toy is superb, straight from the factory.
I recommend these toys to all of my gamer friends. They are the absolute best bang for your buck. Cheers!
I found the model pretty good, a couple issues like makers stamp was hard to avoid, and there weren't really toenails on the sculpt, but for $20 the stock paint was pretty good, except that they made a gold dragon look pretty evil and menacing with the posture and red eyes.
I tried painting it right off, it did not go well, I ended up scrubbing it down with acetone and priming it from plastic, and it went far, far better.
This paint job was a lot of firsts for me, first time doing a fade transition (purple to black) first time doing actual pupils (dragon eyes are nice and big targets ) and first time scrubbing and painting an already done model.
I also experimented with varied varnishes, tried dry brushing matte varnish on the wings after a glossy base to make it look like only the crevices were shiny, which is what I'd imagine would be the case for fleshy wings.
All in all, I'm very, very happy with my end result. $20 or so, and this deep dragon will make my december's act 1 climax pretty epic
The two I've repainted, so far, were much easier than what you describe: I just painted over the existing paint on both of them. I primed parts of the toys with white Artist's Gesso. I highly recommend this instead of painting over the existing paint. The Gesso will cover the factory paint much better, allowing fewer coats of the desired colors.
I sealed both Dragon toys with Minwax Urethane Stain Royal Walnut (aka, The Dip). I believe sealing the paint, is critical, to protect, and preserve, your efforts. If you are not a fan of The Dip, then I would suggest using clear urethane, or full-strength Pledge FloorCare Finish (clear, water-based acrylic, floor clear coat -- 'durable', is an understatement!), available from Wal-Mart. Both will yield a glossy finish, which is easily eliminated with a matte clear coat (Testor's Dullcote is highly recommended). Cheers!
yeah my first pass was painting final base coat right on top of existing paint, it did stick in a lot of parts, but I didn't prime it. When I realized I was having issues, and cleaned it with acetone and that's when I primed it, it went flawlessly.
I've only bothered with varnish thus far, never something as resilient as polyurethane, because I want to keep the option of revising it.
erho: I will once again rise above Lurker status if I ever get back to painting, Real life work transitions... Adulting
Jan 31, 2020 16:23:29 GMT
factoriatabletop: sgtslag...oh man! you are right about it...
Mar 3, 2020 10:13:15 GMT
Draklith: Hey everyone just a quick stop by to see if anyone is still here, hope everyone is doing ok
May 26, 2020 18:27:20 GMT
sgtslag: This forum seems to be slowing down. I hope everyone is still crafting, safely! I will be here until they turn off the power... Cheers!
May 27, 2020 13:46:43 GMT
factoriatabletop: maybe we should try to make a contest here, between us
Jun 2, 2020 8:40:08 GMT
factoriatabletop: no prizes, just proud....dont know, anyone else?
Jun 2, 2020 8:40:40 GMT
sgtslag: Still unpacking after moving in October... Too much stuff, crafting materials are mostly still in boxes. Weekends are busy with life, so little progress made. Getting the urge to push through, though, soon. I have several projects waiting...
Jun 2, 2020 20:14:39 GMT
erho: Yeah I'm down for a painting contect
Jun 8, 2020 14:28:59 GMT
sgtslag: Started working on making hills, which match my Tee-Time carpet I use for my "grass mat," on my gaming table, for big battles. Got two long chunks of open-cell foam, from a friend. Used my Proxxon Hot Wire Cutter to make terrain hills out of them.
Jul 26, 2020 20:12:40 GMT
sgtslag: Came up with around 80 hills. Covering them with the same carpet, from scraps. They will match the tabletop, perfectly. Contact Cement, is my friend. Will post on it, when I get the pictures uploaded. Some prototypes done, as proof-of-concept...
Jul 26, 2020 20:14:06 GMT
randywest: does anyone know more manufacturers for 1/72 fantasy minis besides Dark Alliance, Caesar and Elhiem?
Sept 14, 2020 14:16:19 GMT
sgtslag: 50 Hills completed, 24 left to cover the sides on. Hoping to finish this project within the week. Then I'll post a build description. For war gaming, but it can cross over to RPG sessions... They match the ground 'cloth', perfectly.
Sept 19, 2020 19:03:09 GMT
sgtslag: Sorry, randywest, the listed makers are the only ones I know.
Sept 19, 2020 19:03:34 GMT
sgtslag: Ran out of Hot Glue, with only five hills left to add a skirt to the sides of. Wal-Mart closes at 8:00 PM, thanks to COVID. GRRRrrr! Another 30 minutes of work, and I would have been done: ~77 hills, modular, perfectly matching my table's ground cloth!
Sept 23, 2020 2:50:39 GMT
sgtslag: Will post a write-up soon, or after next week's vacation. Cheers!
Sept 23, 2020 2:51:57 GMT
sgtslag: Hoping to acquire a Chop Saw within the next two weeks. Then I will cut up MDF into triangles, to form the skeleton of my d20 fantasy world globe... Posting will follow, with how-to guide. Cheers!
May 11, 2021 22:57:40 GMT
erho: I have a confession: I havnt painted a thing in months because I got a new guitar(#8!) but now that May "Megadeth month" is over I have a repaired airbrush and a early 90's Ral Partha Amethyst dragon on the table... pics to come soon!
Jun 11, 2021 17:49:58 GMT
margaret: too bad you can't post your music here =). Hadn't seen that dragon - looks like it came out when all my cash was going to raising kids. Looking forward to seeing your paint choices!
Jun 12, 2021 2:41:42 GMT