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Post by Wyloch on Feb 16, 2017 14:56:59 GMT
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Post by guillaume on Feb 16, 2017 16:01:27 GMT
what are you painting? scenery or mini ?
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Post by Wyloch on Feb 16, 2017 16:02:20 GMT
A scratch-built mini.
But also intend to use same technique on some associated scenery.
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sotf
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Post by sotf on Feb 16, 2017 16:02:53 GMT
Unfortunately most of the neon colors don't do as well directly ontop of black.
I'd tried to do a few minis in a style of a black basecoat with a quick, light, neon drybrush over it for a scifi game I've been working on for a while...it doesn't work to well.
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Post by guillaume on Feb 16, 2017 16:10:46 GMT
the trick is to drybrush in grey before applying the neon color or to dry brush in white and put a black lavis on top of it then use the neon color
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Post by m3talslime on Feb 16, 2017 16:46:07 GMT
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Post by Wyloch on Feb 16, 2017 16:51:36 GMT
What brand was the green?
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Post by m3talslime on Feb 16, 2017 17:01:11 GMT
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Post by m3talslime on Feb 16, 2017 17:05:30 GMT
It isn't green, but not sure how precise you need it to be. May be able to blend it with something else, or find something closer to green by the same company. Good luck
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Post by Wyloch on Feb 16, 2017 17:10:31 GMT
Gotcha, thanks very much.
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Post by Sam on Feb 16, 2017 18:50:15 GMT
Unfortunately most of the neon colors don't do as well directly ontop of black. I'd tried to do a few minis in a style of a black basecoat with a quick, light, neon drybrush over it for a scifi game I've been working on for a while...it doesn't work to well. I have not had good luck with neon colors over black either. I usually use a coat of regular color, i.e. green, then a couple coats of the neon. I have not tried it over a white base coat. I usually only use the neon colors when I get some leftover fingernail paints from my daughter.
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Post by sgtslag on Feb 17, 2017 14:03:41 GMT
I'd suggest either a white base coat, or gray. Then apply the neon color. After that, apply a black wash/The Dip/Magic Wash, to fill in the recesses. Black bombing is tolerable to a point, but in situations like this, you need to reverse course, and start with a white/gray base coat, and use a black wash of some sort. It works better, as it is easier to achieve brighter colors while still having the recesses black.
If you really want the higher areas to be less darkened by the wash, apply a coat of clear Klear/Future/acrylic floor shine. This will create a smooth surface across the figure/terrain piece, which will allow the wash to more easily flow over the surface, only darkening the recesses. Acrylic paint, when dry, has a microscopically rough surface, which catches more wash, causing the whole surface to darken. Cheers!
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Post by sotf on Feb 17, 2017 18:14:49 GMT
You might want to consider some of the fabric or similar paints for the neon as well.
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Post by yve on Oct 20, 2017 20:08:11 GMT
Has anyone painted bold color such as neon green over black? I am having zero luck, but I think it's because I'm using cheap acrylic craft paint. I am wondering if Vallejo brand will do much better painting directly onto black (no white or gray undercoat). Two genral rules of thumb: The more pigment is in your paint, the better it can cover other colors. The more opaque your paint is, the better it can cover other colors. Unfortunately the pigment is the most expensive ingredient to a paint, so the cheaper paints are full of acrylic filling with very little pigment in them. I personally do not (anymore) use anything but high quality artists paints for minis or props. For biger pices of terrain that would get too expensive, though. But PLEASE do not grab the cheapest paint off the shelf. You get so much better results for just a dollar more... The second problem is the opacity. Neon colors are mostly translucent, because the light is supposed to be reflected by the white or metallic base color to created that shiny neon effect. You can put coat after coat of neonm color over black without ever receiving a good result because the light is not reflected off the black. So I suggest: black base coat, dry brush in white, grey or try out something like platinum or gunmetal, then put neon over all of it.
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