azil
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Post by azil on Aug 8, 2016 7:01:59 GMT
Hello, persons.
I actually don't play well, any of these games. However, as I was making dollhouse miniatures, my sister who DOES play asked for a miniature tavern setting. I ended up here after trying to find a way to make barrels that curve properly, as bending wood so small was not happening right.
I hope you'll still be willing to give advice, and probably answer some atypical questions. I did a little research, but some things it seems you really do need to play to know, and I think she's getting annoyed with my questions!
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Post by pepebe on Aug 8, 2016 8:44:04 GMT
Hello, persons. I actually don't play well, any of these games. However, as I was making dollhouse miniatures, my sister who DOES play asked for a miniature tavern setting. I ended up here after trying to find a way to make barrels that curve properly, as bending wood so small was not happening right. I hope you'll still be willing to give advice, and probably answer some atypical questions. I did a little research, but some things it seems you really do need to play to know, and I think she's getting annoyed with my questions! Everyone willing to take the risk to burn his fingers with hot glue or cutting them with paper (it hurts more than a hobby cutter), will find here a home. Gaming is NOT a prerequisite. Regarding barrels... If you want to start crafting dungeon dressing, you might want to get rid of some doll house techniques. On a game board scale is less important than in a doll house. You can make things much bigger and they still look fine. Just ask you self "can I see this from a distance of of 100cm or more? You can find a lot of threads here that touch the barrel theme: www.google.de/search?newwindow=1&rlz=1C5CHFA_enDE703DE703&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=site%3Admscraft.proboards.com%2F+barrels&oq=site%3Admscraft.proboards.com%2F+barrels&gs_l=img.3...1117.2488.0.2778.8.5.0.0.0.0.734.1362.2-1j1j6-1.3.0....0...1c.1.64.img..5.0.0.ZnZa1_jO3gsThere are also a couple of videos that might be helpful:
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azil
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Post by azil on Aug 8, 2016 17:20:56 GMT
Thanks! I did find one of those myself, and was able to make them look right. As of this moment, I'm having some doubts about, well, the building itself. She requested it styled like a dollhouse, with the one side off, and wants to put it on a lazy susan? I watched a few videos, and uh, that does not look like it would be effective or useful at all. Would removable walls work? I already constructed the ground floor before I realized I think a wood frame studded with some kinda hardware and walls with magnets might work better, while still looking "pretty". She lives in another state, and I don't know how many people she plays with, but if it's more than one or two, I have no idea how they're going to see in there! Suspecting this is gonna end up treated like a display rather than actually be useful haha...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 19:54:54 GMT
Thanks! I did find one of those myself, and was able to make them look right. As of this moment, I'm having some doubts about, well, the building itself. She requested it styled like a dollhouse, with the one side off, and wants to put it on a lazy susan? I watched a few videos, and uh, that does not look like it would be effective or useful at all. Would removable walls work? I already constructed the ground floor before I realized I think a wood frame studded with some kinda hardware and walls with magnets might work better, while still looking "pretty". She lives in another state, and I don't know how many people she plays with, but if it's more than one or two, I have no idea how they're going to see in there! Suspecting this is gonna end up treated like a display rather than actually be useful haha... Removable walls, or a "shell" that fits over and around the ground floor (maybe with the short 1/4" walls favored by most people here.) That way you could get the 3d house look and just pick up the roof and walls to reveal the inside? as for playing, you're not the only one here. While I do play in some games, I don't actually craft anything for them. I do this just for fame and fortune Point is in a short while you'll get the lingo and the feel for it, and don't hesitate to ask around. This place is stocked full of smart people all willing to help out.
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Post by margaret on Aug 8, 2016 23:55:06 GMT
Mostly people do removable roofs rather than removable walls - or removable shells, as shinobi suggests, but you definitely could use magnets to hold a removable wall.
The primary difference in mind set between doll house miniatures and RPG miniatures is that RPG miniatures are too small to always make everything to scale. At 1 inch = 1 foot, folks can construct almost everything tp scale. at 1 inch = 6 feet, that isn't practical for the tiniest things and you will see accessories that are really over-sized for the minis. As long as it gives the right idea, few players will carp about it.
Now the turntable bit - that is unusual. For one thing, you have to have room on the playing surface for a rotating building, and that would look obvious and odd - unless it's Baba Yaga's hut rotating on its chicken feet.
You can find very small rotating display stands on the Internet, though. So if your sister really needs it to rotate for some reason, it's probably possible to get a rotating base smaller than your building.
Or maybe she wanted a tavern based on Curufin's swinging room trap as shown here? dmscraft.proboards.com/thread/3344/swinging-room-trap-walkthrough
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2016 0:43:58 GMT
Mostly people do removable roofs rather than removable walls - or removable shells, as shinobi suggests, but you definitely could use magnets to hold a removable wall.
The primary difference in mind set between doll house miniatures and RPG miniatures is that RPG miniatures are too small to always make everything to scale. At 1 inch = 1 foot, folks can construct almost everything tp scale. at 1 inch = 6 feet, that isn't practical for the tiniest things and you will see accessories that are really over-sized for the minis. As long as it gives the right idea, few players will carp about it.
Now the turntable bit - that is unusual. For one thing, you have to have room on the playing surface for a rotating building, and that would look obvious and odd - unless it's Baba Yaga's hut rotating on its chicken feet.
You can find very small rotating display stands on the Internet, though. So if your sister really needs it to rotate for some reason, it's probably possible to get a rotating base smaller than your building.
Or maybe she wanted a tavern based on Curufin's swinging room trap as shown here? dmscraft.proboards.com/thread/3344/swinging-room-trap-walkthrough So very true, but I would love to see someone try the shell
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azil
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Post by azil on Aug 9, 2016 8:11:36 GMT
Hmm, nope, she didn't give me anything that specific. Although that would be interesting to mess with. I've already abandoned proper scale to make things work for the bases the figures are mounted on. The ground floor is already constructed, and I used some heavy duty business anchoring the thing so it's "safe" if it is treated roughly, I don't think the walls are coming off intact. There are aquarium pebbles anchored to popsicle sticks embedded 4" deep in the foam platform via gorilla glue. Compared to the flat tile maps I'm seeing, it's something of a monstrosity!
There is a cellar embedded in the foam base as well, with a facade that can be removed and trapdoor entrance... which, before understanding gameplay, I built based off the figures only.
The turntable is meant to go beneath the hill the building is on, green floral foam solidified with mod podge straight down to table level. I haven't carved the path up yet, but in theory, they will be able to walk off the table, onto the hill seemlessly, then the thing spins to the next guy's turn with the disguised rotator. I have ideas about covering part of the edge with florists' moss, but that will wait until I'm not going to mash it with the carving.
Which, in addition to the walls being a static structure, is another oddity that's only just noticeable since I was busy being cocky about my ability to use glue and not doing research... you don't normally spin the map to your own personal perspective. Interesting. Why was that not obvious to start. What exactly am I building.
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Post by skunkape on Aug 9, 2016 14:31:56 GMT
Welcome to the forums! There's nothing wrong with just crafting and not playing!
As far as removable walls etc. I've been making some western buildings, have stalled on the project lately as I've got other project to work on/finish as well, but my western buildings have low 1/4 to 1/2 inch tall walls attached to the floor and I am making shells to go over top, sliding down on the outside of the fixed walls. The idea is that when the PCs enter a building, I pull the shell off and they can easily move around in the floor/short walls part.
Biggest difficulty with doing a shell that sits on top is that sometimes the outer walls on the base will not line up exactly with the shell, the shell's walls tend to be a little more flexible, but I'm not too concerned with that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2016 0:43:59 GMT
Welcome to the forums! There's nothing wrong with just crafting and not playing! As far as removable walls etc. I've been making some western buildings, have stalled on the project lately as I've got other project to work on/finish as well, but my western buildings have low 1/4 to 1/2 inch tall walls attached to the floor and I am making shells to go over top, sliding down on the outside of the fixed walls. The idea is that when the PCs enter a building, I pull the shell off and they can easily move around in the floor/short walls part. Biggest difficulty with doing a shell that sits on top is that sometimes the outer walls on the base will not line up exactly with the shell, the shell's walls tend to be a little more flexible, but I'm not too concerned with that. See! It can be done!
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azil
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Post by azil on Aug 10, 2016 7:35:09 GMT
Interesting. I don't think a shell will work for this, as I've already gone too far... I would like to try it though. This size is more fun that 1:12 for dollhousing.
Would it not be easier to make a shell that's slightly larger than the mini-walls, to fit over top like a box lid instead of splitting the visual part? Most buildings have thicker exterior walls than the interior anyhow.
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Post by skunkape on Aug 10, 2016 13:52:25 GMT
Interesting. I don't think a shell will work for this, as I've already gone too far... I would like to try it though. This size is more fun that 1:12 for dollhousing. Would it not be easier to make a shell that's slightly larger than the mini-walls, to fit over top like a box lid instead of splitting the visual part? Most buildings have thicker exterior walls than the interior anyhow. Yes, my shells are a little bigger than the floor piece to fit over top of them like a box lid. I have a completed building, it's a old shack, I'll need to get the parts together and post some pictures of it so you can see how it works. Should be able to do that this evening. Wanted to add in this as well, I have also made the floor of a sheriff's office but am still working on the shell, (will add pictures of that as well), that will show you what I mean about the shell not line up exactly.
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Post by SpielMeisterKev! on Aug 10, 2016 16:03:31 GMT
Howdy, Would removable walls work? I have had great success with it... Click through for more detail, Kev!
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azil
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Post by azil on Aug 10, 2016 17:27:44 GMT
Oh. Yes. That is almost exactly the thing!
That will work to use during gameplay?? How do you keep from someone staring at the backside and missing what everyone else does? Or, is this more effective for just small groups?
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Post by SpielMeisterKev! on Aug 10, 2016 18:17:26 GMT
Howdy, How do you keep from someone staring at the backside and missing what everyone else does? In play, I do not setup an entire dungeon. I only setup each encounter. And, as you have suggested, I do use a lazy susan! (actually a custom made surface that fits over my Super scrabble board... haha) Stay crafty my friends, Kev!
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azil
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Post by azil on Aug 10, 2016 18:24:43 GMT
Awesome. Perfect. I was getting really worried that I screwed this up. Thanks!
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Post by DnDPaladin on Aug 10, 2016 20:42:44 GMT
wait, you getting paid to craft stuff !!! MADNESSSS !!!!!
8) gotta love crafting !!!
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azil
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Post by azil on Aug 11, 2016 6:23:09 GMT
wait, you getting paid to craft stuff !!! MADNESSSS !!!!! 8) gotta love crafting !!! Lots of people get paid to make small things, actually. In the land of dollhousing, you can sell well-made buildings for several hundred USD. They host miniature fairs, post them on Etsy, and sell miniatures in lots on Ebay. I would assume there's some equivalent for DnD and other table top games ... er, somewhere. This is my first one. I don't know.
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Post by voodoo on Oct 4, 2016 15:59:32 GMT
welcome! I appreciate your interest in crafting and helping your sister, but I hope you give gaming a real try! I'm sure you would enjoy it a lot! Happy crafting and hopefully gaming!
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