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Post by Achilles on Jul 21, 2015 4:23:00 GMT
Hey everyone! So I'm in need of some help. I've been scouring the internet for miniatures that resemble the things in these pictures (I believe they're MtG pictures). Obviously I doubt there are miniatures that look exactly like these, so I'm just trying to find things close. Has anyone seen miniatures similar to any of these and could link me to them or point me in the right direction?
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Post by DMScotty on Jul 21, 2015 5:55:26 GMT
A paint job could go a long way to mimicking these.
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Post by lordbryon on Jul 21, 2015 13:38:30 GMT
not exact and sadly out of print the scorpions of dirz faction from the defunct Confrontation game have a similar look. Hybrid linkOthers link (pages 43-46) These models are hard to find these days. Miniaturemarket.com has a few of the prepainted plastic kits left but the metal and resin models which preceded them are far better.
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Post by onethatwas on Jul 21, 2015 15:07:33 GMT
It'll cost you a bit of money, but Games Workshop Warhammer 40k minis could be used as a base for these minis: The Necron, Tyrannids, and whatever the space elves are called (ESPECIALLY the evil faction) could easily be recolored for this, and mish-mashed into new models to represent these guys.
The White Phrexians were really interesting in design, although some of the blue phrexians were also pretty wicked. The other colors (green, red, black) are all more typical of the phrexian design...
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Post by DnDPaladin on Jul 21, 2015 16:33:33 GMT
oh my god, you want to recreate the phyrexians !!! great idea my man !
unfortunately im not sure, i think you'd have to create the minis from scratch to get something remotely close to those.
note: yes they are all magic the gathering cards. some good ones at it.
EDIT: i think i'd try to make an armature and then use some more armature elements to make the bodies and then cover the whole thing with cardboard for the plates and clothes. paint the armature in red and the cardboard in white. may be a way to do them. for armature you could use untwisted pipe cleaners. note that i am not sure if this would work well.
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Post by tauster on Jul 21, 2015 17:26:44 GMT
oh my god, you want to recreate the phyrexians !!! great idea my man ! unfortunately im not sure, i think you'd have to create the minis from scratch to get something remotely close to those. note: yes they are all magic the gathering cards. some good ones at it. my M:tG period was rather brief and a long time ago (about 15 years or so), so I did a little research on the phyrexians and came up with this page. Lots and lots of inspirations for new miniature builds! EDIT: i think i'd try to make an armature and then use some more armature elements to make the bodies and then cover the whole thing with cardboard for the plates and clothes. paint the armature in red and the cardboard in white. may be a way to do them. for armature you could use untwisted pipe cleaners. note that i am not sure if this would work well. Instead of using cardboard for the plates, how about plastic? Thin plastic is usually stronger than cardboard, plus it doesn't warp. However in case you actually want the plates to warp, cardboard is the way to go. Come to think of it, try getting your hands on whatever cheap miniature you can get. The design doesn't matter much, only the posture of the figure should be cool. Use milliput, hotglue, greenstuff or whatever you like to modify it. Then glue on some plastic/cardboard plates. Painting them in a 'rusted metal' or 'verdigris copper' color scheme is one of the easiest and most efficient ways towards the phyrexian look and feel. Mind that both are quite different from the 'blood & porcelain' look of the pics you posted. I wonder how easy this combination is to replicate? Hmmm...
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Post by Achilles on Jul 21, 2015 18:27:14 GMT
Thank you for providing me the names of these things! I never played M:tG, but when I came across these images over a year ago I knew they had to exist in my world and finding more images was only through sheer luck for me!
You've all provided me with many options! I was afraid I would have to custom build these. I'm afraid because I've not yet dabbled in armatures or miniature building. Perhaps I'll start with one of the bigger creatures I intend to use. I may look at scrapping together some pieces as suggested. It's a shame they don't already exist in miniature form. I'll see what I can do and post updates as I progress. If anyone has more suggestions, please keep them coming! This has all be far more helpful than it was trying to figure it out on my own, haha.
Edit: On second thought, looking through more of the warhammer miniatures, as suggested, I do see a lot of similarities in both the Tyranids and the Necron (haven't looked yet at the dark elves, assuming those are the ones you were suggesting). I may have to pick up some bit lots on ebay and see what I can piece together!
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Post by kgstanley81 on Jul 22, 2015 3:19:34 GMT
Weapon swap and plasti card for the eldar Warmachine has stuff that look like phyrexian
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Post by DnDPaladin on Jul 22, 2015 3:53:22 GMT
have to beware though... these are new phyrexian cards...
let me explain... back in the days of urza saga and the likes...phyrexian didn't look like this... but after the event of the time spiral reality warp... phyrexians changed. so to be precise these are cards fromt he new phyrexia set.
i dont think they'd be hard to do if you would be going from scratch. you'd be surprised how easy it is with hot glue and cardstock alone.
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Post by belatucadras on Jul 22, 2015 5:09:14 GMT
By the looks of them, you could start with some undead creatures as a base. Skeletal lords or somesuch. Then as Scotty suggested, a paint job would get you a long way. Some geometric cardstock shapes or similar shapes cut from thin plastic then glued in place would get you pretty close I think.
Cheap plastic skellies from the dollar store or those undead toy packs I've seen posted here, some cardstock and paint and you could have an army of these suckers for the price of some of those more expensive minis.
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Post by onethatwas on Jul 22, 2015 16:34:10 GMT
Dark Eldar...I knew thy sounded similar to "Elf"
Also, the WH 40K succubi minis also would work.
The phrexians are, in essence, a plane wide conglomeration of bio-mechanically modified beings that fall under the philosophical idea that living, biological tissue is weak/flawed, so they have made "adjustments" to fit better with their ideal. They also think everyone else needs adjusting. Hence, they are in constant evolution, as they subvert and subsume other creatures into their fold.
Think of them as a cross between the Borg (Star Trek) and the Zerg (Starcraft), with magic affinity.
I'm waiting for M:tG to cross Phrexia with Slivers (think of slivers as being like Aliens the movie, except each one has an evolved specialization niche...that they can share with their enormous hive by being in proximity to one another. And their evolution is usually suited to killing everything else around them).
M:tG has some really nasty concepts that would make the Tarrasque or any other high end D&D monstrousity look tame by comparison, if they ever converted to a D&D setting.
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Post by DnDPaladin on Jul 22, 2015 20:47:58 GMT
tell me about it... what if we were to take the eldrazi's into D&D talk about god war for the planes.
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Post by onethatwas on Jul 22, 2015 21:00:26 GMT
Not so impressed by the Eldrazi actually.They were a poor attempt at recreating a Cthulhu style monstrosity in a card game (with an overpowered mechanic that isn't justified by it's mana cost, regardless of how high it is: there are innumerable ways to get emrakul on the field turn 3, and I've seen him be dropped with haste AND hard cast on that same turn).
My opinion is that, for gaming on tabletop, just use Cthulhu. Same thing, essentially.
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Post by DnDPaladin on Jul 23, 2015 8:29:56 GMT
i meant story wise. cards in mtg are always much lower power then their story counter parts for obvious reasons !
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Post by onethatwas on Jul 23, 2015 15:03:48 GMT
i meant story wise. cards in mtg are always much lower power then their story counter parts for obvious reasons ! I'm actually saying that the mana cost for each Eldrazi should have been higher OR the ability dumbed down. Some cards should not have been made, and Eldrazi fall into that grouping (at least not with their current power level). Storywise they are fine...I'd rank them a little higher in power than the Nephilim from Ravnica.
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Post by DnDPaladin on Jul 23, 2015 17:05:55 GMT
the only 2 good enough eldrazi are kozilek butcher of truth and emrakul the aeon torn. the rest just purely sucks man, we do play some others in other formats... but they are all casual format only. kozilek is cool though, nice abilities for its price in mana. but the only real mess they did was emrakul which is crazy strong. then again its not like he can't be dealt with. in modern, i just play my glare of subdual deck and tap that bitch all days long.
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