julian
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Post by julian on Feb 21, 2015 16:26:00 GMT
Okay,Just got through my first week of crafting... it's been a series of fits and starts since I have been acquiring the needed tools as I go and re-doing mistakes, etc... but at the end of the week I have a set of 2.5d walls that have been undercoated (sort of) - which brings me to my question.
The foam core I have been using was repurposed stuff from old meat packages, and is yellow in color. I noticed after my first attempt at the black primer/undercoat that from certain angles I could see a little of the yellow peeking through the undercoat, and it took a going over with a small brush and black acrylic to get rid of it (just got finished and it was a bit of a pain). Looks great now, but it got me thinking... is that something that you guys would bother with? Woud it have looked bad on the end product or am I being a little too persnickety in my approach to this step?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 19:25:54 GMT
Yellow on black? Oh yeah, totally go over it. For me anything like that you can see from two feet away, needs redoing. Now if you step back and don't notice it, that's different. I think if you notice it, no I matter how small, you feel the need to make it right. So, I'm with you on that one
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Post by julian on Feb 21, 2015 23:27:48 GMT
Thank you Shinobi... I was hoping for some confirmation that I didn't go through all the extra effort for nothing. It was tempting to shrug and say I'd fix it in the next coating, but I wasn't sure how that would have turned out. Now for fixing the last little oversight - didn't get enough black and white acrylic GOD I hate being a noob!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 23:56:40 GMT
I don't know about you, but these are the sort of things I have to do wrong (sometimes two or three times) before I learn how to do it right.
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Post by julian on Feb 22, 2015 0:37:43 GMT
Yes sir. I just like to be my own worst critic Appreciate the feedback. I know the process will get faster and prettier as I get the right tools for the job and become familiar with the processes. Onward and upward!
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Post by curufin on Feb 22, 2015 0:49:33 GMT
Don't. We are all still learning. No matter our skill set or the amount of time we have been crafting. I agree with Shinobi, I would spend a little more time fixing it. If you didn't, you would only ever see yellow walls for as long as you used them.
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Post by julian on Feb 22, 2015 1:32:59 GMT
Thanks curufin. I'm not exasperated... just motivated! I'll get there but it can be a downer having to travel 45 minutes one way to a place that sells acrylics. Moral of the story today is I made one good call by reworking the undercoat and I need WAAAAY more black and white!
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Post by Alexis on Feb 22, 2015 7:18:03 GMT
Everyone has started at some point and everybody makes mistakes. It's all a learning process! Don't be discouraged! Nobody is perfect even if it is annoying sometimes ;-) I'm sure your crafts will turn out great even if you're still a beginner.
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Post by julian on Feb 22, 2015 12:51:51 GMT
Thank you Alexis! Don't take my comment too seriously, though... I may be aggravated, but I'm still motivated! I appreciate all the encouragement though. The hardest part about the whole process is that when I have a "show stopper" (like running out of the most basic colors ) it's a minimum of a day's delay because I have to wait till the end of the next workday to try again. I live "in the sticks" so it's a fairly major trek to get to the craft store! Still it gives one a reason to look forward to having to go to work I suppose!
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Post by Alexis on Feb 22, 2015 14:46:10 GMT
The hardest part about the whole process is that when I have a "show stopper" (like running out of the most basic colors ) it's a minimum of a day's delay because I have to wait till the end of the next workday to try again. I live "in the sticks" so it's a fairly major trek to get to the craft store! I understand the pain the waiting causes you very well! I'm like the most impatient person on earth and if I really want to do something I always want it right here and right now. It's very annoying if you have to wait but at least that gives you something to look forward to during the day. I'm currently studying for a very big and important test and knowing that some cool crafting is waiting for me at home really helps getting through the day ;-)
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Post by julian on Feb 22, 2015 14:58:42 GMT
Too right! So much of my work is "virtual" and gets instantaneous results that I think it bleeds over into everything else I do... it's tough sometimes to remember that once you get out of a computer and into the "real world" that it doesn't always work that way. Since all of the hobbies I have now are really attempts to "unplug" it would do me well to learn that lesson. Good things are coming (slowly) if I wait!
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Post by onethatwas on Feb 22, 2015 18:22:56 GMT
The more practice you have, the more you know, and mistakes are always made along the way. When I had a situation arise like this, I basically decided to only use black foamboard or brown cardboard for crafting. Those colors don't catch the eye as much, even when there is a large segment of missed painted area (large being relative to the critical eye). It fades in more easily.
Definately keep trying. That's how you get from being a NOOB to being a pro. All of us here are pretty supportive too...no one will mock someone else for being new to the craft.
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Post by julian on Feb 22, 2015 21:07:16 GMT
Well said, sir, and fantastic idea using the black foamboard! I occasionally have access to some that I could reclaim, but it's a bit less common than the yellow stuff. Still, I'd like to take that advice and run with it ASAP!
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Post by DnDPaladin on Feb 22, 2015 22:42:35 GMT
thats the fun of foamcore, they come in all colors, yeah i also already bought the black ones so i dont need to coat them. that was my advice as well.
as for the motivation, thats all that matters the rest is just trial and error and life in its entirety is all about that. i for one is very lazy, hence why my video channel do not show much videos per say. i'm taking all my times and often im stopping at simple road bumps. thats how lazy i am, yet i am still in the crafting zone. somehow that kept going even after the road bumps. so that should tell you something about crafting and its easyness.
its worth going all that effort and then seeing others say "WOW" ! at least thats what people tell me and my stuff isn't even stellar.
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Post by julian on Feb 23, 2015 1:44:42 GMT
Thanks DnDPaladin - I'm definitely looking forward to seeing the reaction of the peeps when I turn up with my little basic kit! They've been using a cutting board with dice outlining the corners of the "room" where the action is taking place... this should be a substantial step up even if it's not perfect. Do you KNOW how confusing it is to have d6 room corners, a d4 dais, a d8 fountain, etc?? For new jack here it most definitely took away from the "theater of the mind" thing!
So yeah, reactions are cool, and the freeing up of creative juices is also something I'm looking forward to.
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Post by DnDPaladin on Feb 23, 2015 8:36:51 GMT
oh i know... played theather of th emind in classic, adnd and half of adnd, then we gone to dices, pencils, erasers... paper graphs to show the stuff. so yeah i know th efeeling. but i can tell you, now i can't ever go back to theather of the mind. i can when its not combat or things like that. but in combat, sorry i just can't go back now !
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Post by thedmg on Feb 23, 2015 11:47:03 GMT
You have been lured to the craft side of the force!
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Post by julian on Feb 23, 2015 11:54:43 GMT
You have been lured to the craft side of the force!
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Post by onethatwas on Feb 23, 2015 20:42:38 GMT
Excuse the sideways detour, but...
Has anyone besides me wondered why Darth Vader didn't respond to Luke by saying, "*Vader Gasp* No Luke, it isn't Impossible! *Vader Gasp* Just highly improbable..."
To which Luke would still respond by plummeting off the scaffold into the (exceptionally/immaculately clean) garbage chute.
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Post by julian on Feb 23, 2015 22:17:03 GMT
...Has anyone besides me wondered why Darth Vader didn't respond to Luke by saying, "*Vader Gasp* No Luke, it isn't Impossible! *Vader Gasp* Just highly improbable..." Vader finds your lack of statistical analysis... disturbing?
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