DM Michael
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Post by DM Michael on Jul 14, 2014 0:56:04 GMT
To be more specific, the original D&D Gazetteer “The Elves of Alfheim” features some drawings and information about elven habitats. There are detailed information on how a 200 foot high home tree can house 20 families, and how the homes are either build on top of the branches or inside the tree trunks and how the trees are connected to each other using rope bridges.
My former DM has requested that I make an elven village or at least an elven home tree several times.
This is simply beyond my abilities. I don’t think it can be done in 3D. But I would love to see DM Scotty or someone else tackle this in 2.5D
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Post by adamantinedragon on Jul 14, 2014 2:39:16 GMT
Such an undertaking would be difficult indeed, but I agree, some of the real crafters here could probably tackle it. I will add this to my mental list to tackle after my swamp tiles.
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Post by belatucadras on Jul 14, 2014 3:09:17 GMT
I would do it just like any other tile. The exterior edges would be irregular/circular with the interior however you liked the rooms to appear. Doorways from building to building (or even to different rooms in a larger complex) would be connected with the rope bridges. You would basically be making tiles for a tower. Using forest colors like browns for the wood to doll up the tiles rather than painting them grey as you might a dungeon. To make the bridges, you can go a couple of ways: Popsicle/craft/wooden coffee stirrer stick as the slats with some twine to represent rope. Or you could use cardboard cut so that the corrugation runs crosswise then paint the side with the most textures like wooden slats. Twine again for the ropes. There were some posts on how people were making 2d trees for terrain. That concept could easily be expanded to create tree home tiles. These examples of maps can be made into 2d tiles almost directly: fc06.deviantart.net/fs42/i/2009/217/6/d/Aiwenore_Wood_Elf_Village_by_Siobhan68.jpg0-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/tg/image/1391/44/1391445801558.jpgwww.wizards.com/dnd/images/mapofweek/Jan_56b4EF89r.jpg
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Post by darkslayer on Jul 14, 2014 5:40:07 GMT
For this i would probably turn to some woodworkiing. (I love working with wood) it is indeed quite a difficult task if built in 3d, but the way i would do it is i would get a very thick branch, maybe 6-8 inches thick, and i would hollow it out, and leave it with enough strength to be firm. the remaining thickness would be the walls of the treehouse. i would then (depending on the tallness of the branch) slice it horizantally in half, that way i create levels for it. I would drill holes in the sides and pin smaller branches to make, well branches lol. then i would add some flooring made of popsicle sticks to simulate all kinds of walkways and bridges, with rope and alot of other flavor. you could even cut sections into the tree to make rooms and apartments, and add holes on the outside that go from the home tree to another tree in the set. you can create canopies , and reinforce them, and even build on top of them. of course some steps are completely optional. such as adding branches and such. you can modify the plan to your needs! (for example alternatively you could cut the tree in slices before you hollow it out.) Heres a little plan i put together for this...hopefull on day i can make it reality.
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Post by sadric on Jul 14, 2014 7:33:45 GMT
This wood elf village should be possible in cardbord, in 2.5D . Make the base tree out of cardboard, maybe two or three layers thick to strengthen the 3d-look. Then you create the platforms out of thinner cardboard (Cereal box) and maybe coffee stirs for the wood effect. The hard thing would probabyl all the railings, and suspension bridges, that doesnt look like derelict neglected ruins. :-) Make some branches out of aquarium plants or something, to increase the feeling of beeing in a tree. Make same movable for better storage. You could even do large branches out of Toilet paper rolls (like in DM Scottys tree tutorial), put some stairs on them to reach even higher levels of the village. Of course, especially if you have acces to a good color printer you could buy this: www.worldworksgames.com/store/index.php?view=product&product=159Not really a elf village but near to it.
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Post by gnomezrule on Jul 14, 2014 16:01:05 GMT
Its paper mache time.
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DM Michael
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Post by DM Michael on Jul 14, 2014 23:24:32 GMT
For this i would probably turn to some woodworkiing. (I love working with wood) it is indeed quite a difficult task if built in 3d, but the way i would do it is i would get a very thick branch, maybe 6-8 inches thick, and i would hollow it out, and leave it with enough strength to be firm. the remaining thickness would be the walls of the treehouse. i would then (depending on the tallness of the branch) slice it horizantally in half, that way i create levels for it. I would drill holes in the sides and pin smaller branches to make, well branches lol. then i would add some flooring made of popsicle sticks to simulate all kinds of walkways and bridges, with rope and alot of other flavor. you could even cut sections into the tree to make rooms and apartments, and add holes on the outside that go from the home tree to another tree in the set. you can create canopies , and reinforce them, and even build on top of them. of course some steps are completely optional. such as adding branches and such. you can modify the plan to your needs! (for example alternatively you could cut the tree in slices before you hollow it out.) Heres a little plan i put together for this...hopefull on day i can make it reality. I have been thinking about making a small tree stub "habitat" this way. I have already picked out the piece of wood that I would use. It sits on a shelf in the garage now. However when I recently watched DM Scottys video on the dig site, I thought, hey, why not use a cardboard tube and toilet paper for filling and texturing? Right now, I have three pieces waiting to be spray painted. I’ll post pictures of them when they have been sprayed. The way they look now, I don't think that I will ever use that branch for modelling. I think it would be easier to use cardboard tubes. (I used to work in an e-commerce department. They shared office space with the PR-department. The PR-department would often receive these huge prints in large cardboard tubes. When everybody had left, I'd go scavenging in the dumpster. So I have a big stash of cardboard tubes. I guess the cardboard collector title fits well)
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Post by Jason on Jul 15, 2014 0:56:54 GMT
Dumpster diving for crafting supplies... I like the way you think.
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DM Michael
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Post by DM Michael on Jul 15, 2014 13:48:49 GMT
Here are the pictures. I think the texture came out rather neat. I have spent something like 1 or 1½ hour on each. So I would say the technique works fine on this scale. But I don't think it will work on an entire home tree. The branches were done using DM Scotty’s tree trunk technique. If anyone would replicate the tree stub, I suggest using a bigger base. I would have preferred to make more roots that stretch out, but the base wasn't big enough.
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