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Post by SpielMeisterKev! on Aug 20, 2014 2:45:54 GMT
Howdy, Bookcases... Start with craft sticks... Cut 'em up... Glue 'em up... card stock brackets on the shelves first...then shelves to the sides...take your time or they will end up crooked? Paint 'em up... Finished... Take your time or they will end up crooked? I had to replace the one the dogs chewed up... Craftify, Kev!
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Post by beetlewing on Aug 20, 2014 5:45:48 GMT
I like how you left the rounded edges on the top. Gives it character. As you always say, EXALT BUTTON FOR YOU!
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Post by whytespirit on Aug 20, 2014 10:09:22 GMT
They look totally awesome! I've a few lolly sticks I can use for these! Love the rounded tops too- saves cutting and it looks like a great detail.Trouble now is, all these shelves and no books!!!!
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Post by skunkape on Aug 20, 2014 20:12:51 GMT
Those look great!
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Post by Sleepy Hollow Mike on Aug 24, 2014 12:34:44 GMT
Two words! Exalt button!
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Post by sunfishh on Aug 26, 2014 13:01:28 GMT
Well done! Very well done!
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Post by adamantinedragon on Aug 26, 2014 14:30:10 GMT
I made a bunch of bookcases very much like these, including the rounded upper edge. I posted them to another RPG crafting site and was lambasted for "obvious popsicle stick bookcases." In retrospect, yeah, leaving the rounded tops does "telegraph" the source of the material, but I was amazed at the criticisms. One of the reasons I like this board is that sort of thing never seems to happen here. Here's the photo I posted on the other site that got so much grief: At the same time, I posted this photo of some quick and dirty chests of drawers I was using to fill out some rooms in an Inn, and got even more grief for them: On the other hand, this photo of some Sculpey clay filled bookcases got some positive comments:
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Post by dmzane on Aug 26, 2014 14:45:39 GMT
Well I think they are all great and I would be happy to use any of them in my games. I've been a member of many forums and I must say the attitude here makes me want to participate. You have done great work...don't let elitists get you down and keep the pics coming. .. I need my daily crafting fix.
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Post by beetlewing on Aug 26, 2014 14:54:02 GMT
Well I think they are all great and I would be happy to use any of them in my games. I've been a member of many forums and I must say the attitude here makes me want to participate. You have done great work...don't let elitists get you down and keep the pics coming. .. I need my daily crafting fix. What he said. Plus, we all know here that if we misbehave, thedmg will hold you down while DMScotty tortures you with hot glue.
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Post by SpielMeisterKev! on Aug 26, 2014 17:08:47 GMT
Howdy, ...so much grief:...even more grief...some positive comments: They think they can do bettah?! PUNKS, Kev!
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Post by adamantinedragon on Aug 26, 2014 17:37:14 GMT
To be fair, most of them are capable of doing better. The site I am talking about is one where people create incredibly realistic and detailed dungeons on a regular basis. I've learned a lot from the site, even if there are some elitist members there.
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Post by adamantinedragon on Aug 26, 2014 18:04:13 GMT
The site I originally posted these photos to was the Hirst Arts messageboard. I don't want to leave the wrong impression, most of the people there are as nice and supportive as the people here are. There are a few who can be more critical than I think is warranted. But it's a great site and I spend a lot of time there so I don't want to paint with a broad brush. hirstarts.yuku.com/bhirstarts
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Post by SpielMeisterKev! on Aug 26, 2014 23:38:32 GMT
Howdy, ...most of them are capable of doing better. Don't sell yourself short. Your bookshelves are great, the chests of drawers are creative. I like looking at hirst arts creations as well as the next guy...I have some castings I bought and painted...I have not cast anything myself. I feel like making stuff from scratch is much more rewarding, both to look at and actually craft. Craftify with head held high, Kev!
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Post by dragon722 on Aug 27, 2014 0:03:26 GMT
Howdy, ...most of them are capable of doing better. Don't sell yourself short. Your bookshelves are great, the chests of drawers are creative. I like looking at hirst arts creations as well as the next guy...I have some castings I bought and painted...I have not cast anything myself. I feel like making stuff from scratch is much more rewarding, both to look at and actually craft. Craftify with head held high, Kev! Though stuff does look great with hirst arts, adamantinedragon the construction of what we build here is a 1,000 times better and much more awarding to see the outcome of things that have been created from scratch. I would use anything anyone has built on this forum before I would use their hirst arts stuff. I am not bagging on it, because I have the stuff too, but I feel that is like putting the pieces to a model together. Where is the creativity in that lol ! We are glad to have you here and that goes for everyone else too who is reading this...
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Post by onethatwas on Aug 27, 2014 6:19:59 GMT
There is a substantive difference between one style and another, both artistically speaking and in regards to the function. While molded or sculpted craft has "professional" appeal and supposed artistic merit, it is worth noting that cardboard or popsicle crafts can be more functional, accessable, and more readily produced (DM Scotty's main emphasis on the craft is its ease of use, its cheap supplies, and the good quality produced). This to me sounds like a worthy vote for the craft being considered equally as professional...more so in some regards.
As for artistic merit, art is a very subjective realm...one persons finger painting is another man's Picasso.
Those who realize universal value in "craft" and "art", regardless of the method of acheivement, are often better off as people. The elitist view is a sad and lonely one.
Sure, few of these crafts will sell for hundreds of dollars on ebay. But I can produce a full dungeon in half the time (or less) for almost no monetary investment, get tons of replay and fun-factor value out of it, and boast about it...not to mention get some great stuff from a recycled popsicle stick and have fun crafting.
While Hirst Arts stuff is cool, anyone who doesn't see the value of simpler crafts is missing the point. Your dungeon will be fully stocked before they even finish making a single rooms worth of filler.
So, hope that helps to inspire and encourage.
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Post by beetlewing on Aug 27, 2014 7:17:04 GMT
So, hope that helps to inspire and encourage. Oh it does. And something I never see in these types of discussions is how much personality hand-crafted tiles and props have. Each and every person creating them puts a unique artistic twist on them, whether they realize it or not... it's the nature of the craft. And to all the Hirst elitists out there: Congratulations - you "made" a bunch of stuff eight thousand other people have. Maybe you should consider using a little creativity. (No offense to Mr. Hirst)
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Post by whytespirit on Aug 27, 2014 19:14:12 GMT
You can judge a quality craft forum by its responses to a decent post, need I say more?
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Post by skunkape on Aug 28, 2014 15:37:43 GMT
There are major benefits to each crafting method. The one main benefit for Hirst Arts crafting is that the plaster used has a higher weight to it that cardboard, but that also can be a determent, because the pieces get heavy really fast! I would prefer to use Hirst Arts pieces at home, but use pieces crafted from cardboard and foamcore when traveling!
Oh yeah, and being a Hirst Arts enthusiast, I have yet to turn my nose up and anything people have done here! If you've made something, no matter whether you've molded it in plaster, or cut up and painted cardboard, Popsicle sticks and foamcore, you're still crafting something and should be proud of whatever you come up with! As long as you're happy with the result, who cares whether someone else likes it or not.
And if you're going to critique something, be constructive in your criticism!
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Post by adamantinedragon on Aug 28, 2014 15:46:57 GMT
skunkape, I too am a Hirst enthusiast, and beyond that, I've even made several of my own plaster molds. There are great uses for cast blocks and I've got bins full of them, as well as a lot of very nice terrain made using the blocks. Also, it's not quite the same as, say, Legos, there is a lot of skill and artisanship possible using the blocks, desiging buildings with them and then painting and detailing them. It's all good when it comes to crafting as far as I'm concerned. I really went insane several months ago when I pledged a Dwarvenforge kickstarter. Two more months and I'll have a box of pre-made cavern terrain, and I am looking forward to that too.
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Post by skunkape on Aug 28, 2014 15:57:05 GMT
It's all good when it comes to crafting as far as I'm concerned. I really went insane several months ago when I pledged a Dwarvenforge kickstarter. Two more months and I'll have a box of pre-made cavern terrain, and I am looking forward to that too. Yeah, I'm waiting for my cavern tiles too! Still haven't painted up my tiles from their first Kickstarter!
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